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Stud_McCool · 10-05-2019, 09:21 AM

Welcome to the new "Calgary is No Good" thread.

Geeoff · 10-05-2019, 09:24 AM

This feels like an off-season thread.

DeluxeMoustache · 10-05-2019, 09:25 AM

Team needs a win so the thread can die

Robbob · 10-05-2019, 09:32 AM

This is why we can't have nice things.

Harry Lime · 10-05-2019, 09:37 AM

I've always thought that a good comparable for Monahan was Stamkos. Tampa Bay went to another level when they moved Stamkos from first line centre to second line centre and wing. It's not because he wan't effective as the #1, but because it gave them two effective scoring lines, and ego be damned.

Monahan and Gaudreau should be split up.

TheSquatch · 10-05-2019, 09:44 AM

I don't see this as a whining thread or a wound-licking thread. You can criticize/analyze a team and be a fan. Also, you could generate a positive opinion that is unpopular, for example, a guy could go out on a limb here and say that the progress we are seeing in Rittich, how ready he looks, how calm he is, we have a legit #1 goalie in him, and moving from Smith/Rittich to Rittich/Talbot will be the biggest improvement the team makes this year.

You could say that Treliving has been mediocre through no fault of his own - if the Zucker deal doesn't get scrubbed by outright incompetence in the other party, that's a good one, and if Kadri arrives here and Janko is gone, that's a good one too (although some didn't want Kadri here). Tre has done well, and done all he can - circumstances outside his control have been the dominant factor in recent trades.

You could say that Lucic for Neal is a huge win, outright for the Flames, because Neal double super sucks and Looch only sucks a little, or you could spin it up higher and say that Looch still has some game, some passion, and ... truculence. Neal has none of it.

All positive takes, which lots of people would not agree with I think.

Dan02 · 10-05-2019, 09:50 AM

3 opinions.

The Flames are a slow team, Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Tkachuck, Frolik, Lucic, Jankowski, all below average speed at this point.

They should consider moving Kylington to the wing.

The current team is a team built for the regular season and is going to falter in round 1 or 2 every year for the next 3-4 seasons. Who is this teams Mackinnon? or O'Reilly? Monahan might be a top tier centre in terms of points, but he's also a center who doesn't have the ability to control a game.

Beninho · 10-05-2019, 10:09 AM

Flames second line needs a big upgrade on Frolik and a scoring upgrade onBacklund. Not really an unpopular opinion but Tkachuk has set these guys up in the slot a ridiculous amount the last two seasons and both have sub par goal totals. Won’t win a cup with Frolik and Backlund on the second line

The Hamonic trade was a huge overpayment as others have said and I think he is over-hyped by our fans. He was one of the worst players vs the Avs

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Shazam · 10-05-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

3 opinions.

The Flames are a slow team, Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Tkachuck, Frolik, Lucic, Jankowski, all below average speed at this point.

They should consider moving Kylington to the wing.

The current team is a team built for the regular season and is going to falter in round 1 or 2 every year for the next 3-4 seasons. Who is this teams Mackinnon? or O'Reilly? Monahan might be a top tier centre in terms of points, but he's also a center who doesn't have the ability to control a game.

Avs only got to the second round.

O'Reilly? O'Reilly? Oh man.

Nsd1 · 10-05-2019, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

Welcome to the new "Calgary is No Good" thread.

Time to be intellectually honest with ourselves, C=NG.

Brad Marsh · 10-05-2019, 10:51 AM

I have two unpopular opinions about the Flames:

First, I thought Jay Feaster did a decent job as GM. He is directly responsible for most of the current core and I feel like he takes too much blame for poor returns on Iginla and Regehr (I think that rests primarily with ownership and the players themselves).

I don't see this team winning with Backlund as the second line centre. I would try Lindholm and/or Bennett there and bump Baclund and Frolik to the third line.

mrdonkey · 10-05-2019, 10:53 AM

Valimaki is extremely overrated.

Geeoff · 10-05-2019, 11:01 AM

Johnny Gaudreau is big and Milan Lucic is small.

dissentowner · 10-05-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

My unpopular opinion is fairly well known: that the Flames will have a hard time winning with Johnny Gaudreau as their top forward, and next summer they should seriously consider trading him to maximize his value.

Other unpopular opinions I've had:
- Fighting should eliminated completely from the game
- The definition of a hit needs to be re-shaped, to only be about separately puck from player and nothing more
- Theo Fleury is not an all time great Flame, and does not deserve to have his number retired or be honored by the club.
- The organization has been to quick to fire General Managers with Al Coates in particular getting a raw deal. With more time, Button would have also been a good GM. I'm very relieved by the commitment being shown to GMBT
- Iginla is the best Flames of all time but did the club a real dis-service by how he handled his NTC during his final season. He was also a major issue in his final few seasons by undermining the coach and not playing a strong two way game, creating a divide in the locker room, with Regehr on the other side.

My unpopular opinion is I disagree with everything Jiri wrote here.

Rando · 10-05-2019, 11:09 AM

Starting an Unpopular Opinion thread on Calgarypuck is not what makes Canada a free country, RealPepeman

Strange Brew · 10-05-2019, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

My unpopular opinion is I disagree with everything Jiri wrote here.

Well he’s right about Iginla being the greatest Flame of all time.

Jiri Hrdina · 10-05-2019, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

My unpopular opinion is I disagree with everything Jiri wrote here.

That's probably more of a popular opinion

Flames Fan, Ph.D. · 10-05-2019, 11:40 AM

I hated Iginla the last 3 years on our team and think he dragged the Flames down with his attitude and his play.

Theo is a top 3 all time Flame.

Over the long run, Darryl Sutter's contribution to the Flames organization was a net negative.

The Cobra · 10-05-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

- Iginla is the best Flames of all time but did the club a real dis-service by how he handled his NTC during his final season.

When you have a NTC, you get to decide where you want to go.

TheRealPepman · 10-05-2019, 11:41 AM

- Black C > White C for homes. Black C is classy, bold, edgy, modern, and looks good on just about everyone.
- Would love to see Tkachuk being the superstar instead of Gaudreau. Give it a try. We've seen the best of Gaudreau. That's it. His extra gear will only be prominent once he's no longer a Flame.