03-01-2021, 08:16 PM
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#221
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames have had 17 coaches. Only 3 have ever been the Head Coach of another NHL team after they left Calgary. That has to be some kind of league record.
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You get what you pay for
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03-01-2021, 08:17 PM
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#222
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nixon45
Oh we are looking in mirrors again! perfect!
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This franchise is truly a House of Mirrors
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03-01-2021, 08:17 PM
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#223
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Dion
A new coach might give this team a temporary lift but it wouldn't solve the lack of mental toughness in the dressing room. We're too pillowy soft and the players can't hand;e adversity.
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Under a real coach we'd finally find out who the slackers are.
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03-01-2021, 08:17 PM
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#224
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Exp: 
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Bottom line is that this is a poorly constructed team. 23 games into the season and your highest paid player plays on your second line. No true #1 center, no #1 dman and absolutely nothing on the right side for depth. Did I expect us to be this bad, no. But having now seen each team in the North multiple times, we are “slotting” where we probably should be. It’s a league built on speed and we probably have the slowest collective roster in the division.
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03-01-2021, 08:18 PM
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#225
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by nixon45
Oh we are looking in mirrors again! perfect!
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Good self love is at the foundation of all good things.
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03-01-2021, 08:18 PM
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#226
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Crumbled after the Dave goal. Thing is, they don’t get picked up by a goal like Lucic’s - it’s one way emotion.
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TBF Looch's goal only made up for his giveaway that cost him/them a goal. So really...no net gain there.
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03-01-2021, 08:19 PM
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#227
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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“It seems like…we just want it easy on a night to night basis. We don’t want to work hard like we did when this coaching staff took over last year. There’s more than enough people in this organization that need to look in the mirror.”
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Yep, I see a lot of that with this team.
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03-01-2021, 08:19 PM
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#228
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Flames PP
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03-01-2021, 08:19 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by united
Opposing GMs must be rubbing their hands together waiting for the inevitable phone call for help from Low-ball Brad after years of his pestering them with his “in on everything” video game approach shotgunning bit parts into trades for quality assets.
Treliving has a bad case of Endowment Effect he needs to get under control if he stays on as Flames GM, but in the short-term that is going to make a COVID-complicated trade environment even more difficult to navigate than it already is.
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I have always been surprised that Treliving's "in on everything" approach was viewed by some as indicative of him being a good GM. IMO it has been indicative of a guy lacking an actionable strategy to building a winner.
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03-01-2021, 08:19 PM
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#230
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browna
My hot take is that the Flames have at least 1 more win, maybe two, if Domingue was an option after Markstrom went down. Team confidence in the goalie, in addition to more than an acceptable amount of below average goals, many at the wrong time.
Tonight the game was over when players were visably pissed after Rittich gave the Sens a goal minutes after battling back. Zero confidence in him the rest of the game and a team with no confidence, a 2 goal deficit seemed like 4.
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What does that tell you about them, as a team?
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03-01-2021, 08:19 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
Milan Lucic on our postgame show following tonight’s 5-1 loss in Ottawa:
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Well, Lucic wasn't a fan of Peters, so he's in Ward corner for a few reasons.
The other players may not have liked him but responded to him for an entire season. Lucic wasn't here to see how some of the players he mentioned who aren't putting in the effort, responded under a task master when he had them 2nd in the league.
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03-01-2021, 08:20 PM
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#232
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
TBF Looch's goal only made up for his giveaway that cost him/them a goal. So really...no net gain there.
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That wasn't Lucic's giveaway. He put a pass right on track to hit Bennett's tape. Somehow, Bennett missed.
Bennett was wide open and totally whiffed on it. That's inexcusable.
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03-01-2021, 08:20 PM
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#233
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames have had 17 coaches. Only 3 have ever been the Head Coach of another NHL team after they left Calgary. That has to be some kind of league record.
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You know has to be another record? The number of people refusing to believe coaching matters.
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03-01-2021, 08:21 PM
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#234
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
TBF Looch's goal only made up for his giveaway that cost him/them a goal. So really...no net gain there.
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But if every one contributed to a goal for each goal against that they contributed to, it would be a much closer and respectable result.
That's why Lucic is one of the very few I can maintain respect for.
Mangiapane is probably the sole other when talking about the forwards.
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03-01-2021, 08:21 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
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In early January, I was eagerly awaiting the start of a new season.
2 months later, I'm again eagerly awaiting the start of a new season.
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03-01-2021, 08:22 PM
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#236
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Flames PP
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Are you kidding? She goes for the save that's commitment. And way more entertaining.
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03-01-2021, 08:23 PM
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#237
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames have had 17 coaches. Only 3 have ever been the Head Coach of another NHL team after they left Calgary. That has to be some kind of league record.
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Conversley we may have the most who went to the KHL.
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03-01-2021, 08:23 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
What does that tell you about them, as a team?
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No confidence. They need to get pulled into the game somehow. Big goals save or not a bad goal by the goalie. Or, the coach laying down the law and pulling them in.
There were two d pinches the last game that lead to goals which totally swung the momentum to the Flames, and then they cruised. Those are the subtle moments of fragility that the Flames need to have things go their way. Tonight they didn't get those and there was no way out of the mud.
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03-01-2021, 08:24 PM
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#239
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The Flames have had 17 coaches. Only 3 have ever been the Head Coach of another NHL team after they left Calgary. That has to be some kind of league record.
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We've had at least 3 (Keenan, Hartley, Peters) who's next coaching job was in the KHL, which also might be some kind of record.
EDIT: beaten to the punch
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03-01-2021, 08:24 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
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Watching other hockey is also just depressing.
Other teams play so, so much faster than Flames hockey. We slow it down and play ugly, garbage hockey. It is absolutely infuriating. I can’t cheer for a Geoff Ward coached team. Not after having to endure years of Gulutzan.
Just fire Treliving, because I honestly don’t think this team will improve under him anymore. It’s over. Get rid of him.
Seven years to find a goalie worth a damn.
Seven years and counting to find a competent head coach.
Doubling down on a group of players that have consistently proven themselves to be unable to get it done.
He’s just a bad GM. Yes, he’s the best we’ve had for a long time - but he’s still just bad.
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