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Old 09-16-2020, 05:47 PM   #1321
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Pretty sure this isn’t true? I thought masks were completely ineffective at protecting yourself but is an effective method of protecting others. Has this changed?
Some masks protect you from those that are infected with COVID19, for example the medical grade mask my wife wore (along with other PPE) for 10 days while she sat with her dad while be died of COVID19 was designed to protect her from his illness.

Other masks, non-medical grade are designed as to protect other from getting infect from you if you are positive and asymptomatic. Couple this with the mask the non infect person wears and that is two levels of protection.
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Some protection is better than nothing! Which helps others, and you. Zero wrong with that!
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:24 PM   #1323
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Pretty sure this isn’t true? I thought masks were completely ineffective at protecting yourself but is an effective method of protecting others. Has this changed?
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41...-masks-prevent

“I think there’s enough evidence to say that the best benefit is for people who have COVID-19 to protect them from giving COVID-19 to other people, but you’re still going to get a benefit from wearing a mask if you don’t have COVID-19,” said Chin-Hong.

Masks may be more effective as a “source control” because they can prevent larger expelled droplets from evaporating into smaller droplets that can travel farther.

Another factor to remember, noted Rutherford, is that you could still catch the virus through the membranes in your eyes, a risk that masking does not eliminate.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:32 PM   #1324
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https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41...-masks-prevent

“I think there’s enough evidence to say that the best benefit is for people who have COVID-19 to protect them from giving COVID-19 to other people, but you’re still going to get a benefit from wearing a mask if you don’t have COVID-19,” said Chin-Hong.

Masks may be more effective as a “source control” because they can prevent larger expelled droplets from evaporating into smaller droplets that can travel farther.

Another factor to remember, noted Rutherford, is that you could still catch the virus through the membranes in your eyes, a risk that masking does not eliminate.
Well if we wore masks like the original "posters" from the city of calgary our eyes would be protected too!
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Some masks protect you from those that are infected with COVID19, for example the medical grade mask my wife wore (along with other PPE) for 10 days while she sat with her dad while be died of COVID19 was designed to protect her from his illness.

Other masks, non-medical grade are designed as to protect other from getting infect from you if you are positive and asymptomatic. Couple this with the mask the non infect person wears and that is two levels of protection.
Sorry for your loss.
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V, this explains it well:


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Old 09-16-2020, 10:27 PM   #1327
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Incorrect, it is both a name and a colloquial term that has come to carry additional meaning in a specific context. I supposed there could be a Karen named Karen which may be the ultimate form of that Pokemon evolution. However, you have to pretty soft to really take offence to this. If that is your biggest worry in life, you're doing alright.
We should all stop being a Dick about the name Karen.
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We should all stop being a Dick about the name Karen.
Not sure how using a slang term is being a dick. It isn't derogatory to anyone but people who are way to sensitive about their name. I mean if we are going to get up in arms about colloquial terms that are negative and derogatory we have many more to work on before I start to worry about the term "Karen."
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Let’s just ignore that Karen is a term used to on a racial basis? Imagine calling a Black man Tom. Do we really need to be actively adding to the racial typifying?
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Let’s just ignore that Karen is a term used to on a racial basis? Imagine calling a Black man Tom. Do we really need to be actively adding to the racial typifying?

Aunt Karen's Cabin? Did I miss that book?
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Old 09-17-2020, 09:47 AM   #1332
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Let’s just ignore that Karen is a term used to on a racial basis? Imagine calling a Black man Tom. Do we really need to be actively adding to the racial typifying?
I've always felt it was a chicken/egg thing.

There's a pretty limp argument that Karen is racial, if only because it's mostly directed at white women (I'd argue it's more problematic as a gendered insult than a racial one, but I digress).

I would think you can easily refer to anyone as a Karen, if they typify the action.
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Calling someone a Karen isn't racist. It's the politically correct way of calling someone a c u next Tuesday
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Not sure how using a slang term is being a dick. It isn't derogatory to anyone but people who are way to sensitive about their name. I mean if we are going to get up in arms about colloquial terms that are negative and derogatory we have many more to work on before I start to worry about the term "Karen."
I bet if your name was Karen, you'd think differently.
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You too can choose to epitomize the Karen craze:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment...-out-1.5108833


"The name “Karen” has become an umbrella term used to signify entitled white women who use their privilege to demand special treatment and complain about trivial matters, such as when they ask to “speak to the manager” or refuse to wear face masks in public during the pandemic"
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Old 09-17-2020, 11:32 AM   #1336
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I bet if your name was Karen, you'd think differently.
I know a Karen, well technically Karin, and she thinks it’s hilarious.

I don’t think anyone is actually mistreating people named Karen because of an internet meme.
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I've always felt it was a chicken/egg thing.

There's a pretty limp argument that Karen is racial, if only because it's mostly directed at white women (I'd argue it's more problematic as a gendered insult than a racial one, but I digress).

I would think you can easily refer to anyone as a Karen, if they typify the action.
I’ve only ever heard it applied to a white woman, and only ever ‘defined’ as a white woman. But the sexist thing is a good take too.

I mean, we do have actual words to describe deplorable behaviour. 2020 and we’re still running off a Dane Cook bit for god sakes.
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Let’s just ignore that Karen is a term used to on a racial basis? Imagine calling a Black man Tom. Do we really need to be actively adding to the racial typifying?
Pretty different.

Part of the Karen stereotype is an uncalled for exercise of racial privilege, which is different than calling out racial minorities. I also don't think being white is a necessary component of being a Karen, it's just that white women are more likely to act like Karens.

I would state that the greater danger here is sexism. A woman being assertive is perceived of differently than a man doing the same thing.

All that being said, I think the Karen stereotype is pretty apt. I use it. You just have to be careful you aren't using it to describe acceptable behaviour.
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I bet if your name was Karen, you'd think differently.

I bet a non-Karen Karen would find it amusing. A Karen Karen (or Karen^2) would be annoyed and expect to talk to a manager.
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^That for sure. And also there isn't a 200 year history attached through the name Karen like there is Tom. Nor the irony of Tom being a White name given to dehumanize Black slaves.
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