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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
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Anderssen
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9.18% |
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Bruce
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0.24% |
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Carroll
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0% |
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Culkin
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0% |
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Dube
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0.24% |
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Falkovsky
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0% |
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Fox
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1 |
0.24% |
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Hamilton
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0% |
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Harrison
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0% |
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Hathaway
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1 |
0.24% |
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Hickey
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130 |
30.59% |
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Kanzig
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1 |
0.24% |
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Karnaukhov
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0% |
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Klimchuk
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0% |
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Kulak
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2 |
0.47% |
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Kylington
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147 |
34.59% |
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Lindstrom
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0% |
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Mangiapane
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17 |
4.00% |
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Mattson
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0% |
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McDonald
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0% |
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Morrison
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0% |
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Ollas Mattsson
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0% |
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Parsons
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0% |
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Phillips
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0% |
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Poirier
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2 |
0.47% |
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Pollock
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0% |
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Pribyl
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0.24% |
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Rafikov
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0% |
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Rittich
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0% |
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Schneider
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0% |
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Shinkaruk
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76 |
17.88% |
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Smith
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0% |
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Tuolola
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3 |
0.71% |
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Wotherspoon
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3 |
0.71% |
07-11-2016, 01:20 PM
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#61
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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It is interesting that there seems to be "ledges" in this prospect ranking much like seen in NHL draft rankings.
1st ledge: Tkachuk
2nd ledge: Jankowski, Gillies
3rd ledge: Kylington, Hickey, Andersson, Shinkaruk
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07-11-2016, 01:21 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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I went Kylington. But a case can be made for all three of him, Andersson and Hickey - take your pick.
At the same time we have three very different forwards in Shinkaruk, Mangiapane and Poirier. Again, take your pick, but I think the defensemen have a slight edge over them.
Nice to have some defensemen in the top 5.
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07-11-2016, 01:22 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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pretty close between Andersson and Kylington for me and even hickey... seemed like RA still has some maturity/fitness issues to work out... OK just has such elite skating that, in theory, he shouldn't be caught out of position too much....
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07-11-2016, 01:51 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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I put Andersson ahead of Hickey and Kylington. He is my favorite to make the team out of camp, came really close last camp when he was only 18. Has only gotten stronger since then.
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07-11-2016, 01:51 PM
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Franchise Player
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where would the Flames top-5 rank on other teams..
The Hockey writers Derek Neumeier rankings of the Stars prospect sept 2015 had
#3 Julius Honka... same as Kylington straight from Draft to AHL where he put put 31 pts as an 18 year old..
#5 Esa Lindell
#6 Stephen Johs
#7 Jamie Olesiak
and their 5th best prospect was Jyrki Jokipakka.
They threw in their 5th best defense prospect for playoff rental Russell!!
Their 5th best prospect is penciled in as the Flames #4 or #5 best D in the organization.
Would Andersen , Hickey and/or Kylington break into the Star's top 4 defense prospects.... their top 10 prospects?
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07-11-2016, 01:55 PM
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#66
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Last edited by Hey Connor, It's Mess; 07-27-2016 at 02:17 AM.
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07-11-2016, 01:59 PM
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#67
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
where would the Flames top-5 rank on other teams..
The Hockey writers Derek Neumeier rankings of the Stars prospect sept 2015 had
#3 Julius Honka... same as Kylington straight from Draft to AHL where he put put 31 pts as an 18 year old..
#5 Esa Lindell
#6 Stephen Johs
#7 Jamie Olesiak
and their 5th best prospect was Jyrki Jokipakka.
They threw in their 5th best defense prospect for playoff rental Russell!!
Their 5th best prospect is penciled in as the Flames #4 or #5 best D in the organization.
Would Andersen , Hickey and/or Kylington break into the Star's top 4 defense prospects.... their top 10 prospects? |
Jokipakka was 24 at the time of those rankings, he turns 25 this August.
How old are the Flames prospects you listed?
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07-11-2016, 02:02 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Jokipakka was 24 at the time of those rankings, he turns 25 this August.
How old are the Flames prospects you listed?
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Not to mention he cherry picked (surprise, surprise..it is ricardo after all) one of the better defense prospect pools in the entire NHL to compare to.
Flames prospect pool isn't the best, but it's above average IMO and it's come a long ways on the back end too, in the last 25 months with the additions of Hickey, Andersson and Kylington.
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07-11-2016, 02:06 PM
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#69
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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I think Poirier is being developed into a third line winger who uses his speed to be an effective forechecker and penalty killer. Whether you think his ceiling is higher than that, I suspect the Flames organization disagrees. I think he can still become a good player, I just think expectations of where he tops out need to be adjusted.
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07-11-2016, 02:08 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
where would the Flames top-5 rank on other teams..
The Hockey writers Derek Neumeier rankings of the Stars prospect sept 2015 had
#3 Julius Honka... same as Kylington straight from Draft to AHL where he put put 31 pts as an 18 year old..
#5 Esa Lindell
#6 Stephen Johs
#7 Jamie Olesiak
and their 5th best prospect was Jyrki Jokipakka.
They threw in their 5th best defense prospect for playoff rental Russell!!
Their 5th best prospect is penciled in as the Flames #4 or #5 best D in the organization.
Would Andersen , Hickey and/or Kylington break into the Star's top 4 defense prospects.... their top 10 prospects? |
That link also says Radek Faksa is an "honourable mention". the same kid who singlehandedly won them like three playoff games.
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07-11-2016, 02:08 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Jokipakka was 24 at the time of those rankings, he turns 25 this August.
How old are the Flames prospects you listed?
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Honka is 20
Lindell 21
Olesiak 22
Johns 23
Dallas was adding a top D prospect every year.
The Flames prospects listed are all young.... but they are the best that the Flames have seemingly having passed Wotherspoon, Kulak.
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07-11-2016, 02:12 PM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Honka is 20
Lindell 21
Olesiak 22
Johns 23
Dallas was adding a top D prospect every year.
The Flames prospects listed are all young.... but they are the best that the Flames have seemingly having passed Wotherspoon, Kulak.
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Go back. Read your post. Read my post. Try to understand what I meant and what you're missing.
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07-11-2016, 02:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Does Hamilton, who just turned 23, count?
Because right this very moment he is time zones ahead of any of the Stars D prospects.
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07-11-2016, 02:14 PM
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#74
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Jokipakka was 24 at the time of those rankings, he turns 25 this August.
How old are the Flames prospects you listed?
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If Jokki was their 5th best propsect at 24 years old then we would have a lot in their top 10.
Andersson, Hickey, Kylington and Kulak should be ranked above Jokki.
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07-11-2016, 02:21 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
can't wait to get informed how I voted incorrectly ... but Kylington.
Surprised I have him above Anderssen but the two seem to have flopped standing this summer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Kylington or Hickey for me. Went Hickey but it was close. Rasmus is further down for me due to two years of conditioning issues
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Jiri not falling in line... trying to throw dissentowner off the scent. Nice try Jiri!
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07-11-2016, 02:21 PM
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#76
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Does Hamilton, who just turned 23, count?
Because right this very moment he is time zones ahead of any of the Stars D prospects.
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Don't let ricardodw get started on Hamilton...please...
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07-11-2016, 02:26 PM
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Franchise Player
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Who the hell is Derek Neumeier?
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07-11-2016, 02:37 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate NY
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Voted Hickey in the this round, with him just edging out Kylington. I thought that he had a very good showing last week at the Development Camp.
I'm having trouble figuring out where to place Pribyl in my list. I wish I knew more about him and his potential.
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07-11-2016, 02:48 PM
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#79
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
It is interesting that there seems to be "ledges" in this prospect ranking much like seen in NHL draft rankings.
1st ledge: Tkachuk
2nd ledge: Jankowski, Gillies
3rd ledge: Kylington, Hickey, Andersson, Shinkaruk
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I'd knock Shinkaruk down a ledge to one with Poirier, etc personally. Don't see him as the same talent as the 3D.
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07-11-2016, 02:53 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Who the hell is Derek Neumeier?
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I think he plays for the Milwaukee Brewers.
http://m.mlb.com/player/543590/kirk-nieuwenhuis
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