01-20-2021, 09:43 AM
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Fearmongerer
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
What did he say again? I don't remember.
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"If you think about it, it's a terrific environment with regard to -- if you enjoy playing and enjoy being with your teammates for long periods of time, it's a perfect place," Boucher said.
"Not even any woman here to disrupt your concentration," Milbury responded.
The NHL condemned the comments as "insensitive and insulting." The league said it communicated its concern to NBC, its U.S. TV partner.
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I mean...who is offended/insulted by that and how is it insensitive?
To the players maybe because they can get distracted?
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01-20-2021, 09:44 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
What did he say again? I don't remember.
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This.
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Boucher: If you think about it, it's a terrific environment with regard to, if you enjoy playing and enjoy being with your teammates for long periods of time, it's a perfect place.
Milbury: Not even any women here to disrupt your concentration.
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Which would not be anything remotely worthy of being fired for if not for this being a straw that broke the camel's back situation.
Frankly I never thought he should have ever been hired in the first place. The guy's legacy in the league is being absolutely terrible at player evaluation. Why would anyone listen to him about hockey? He spent his entire career in management being wrong. And his playing career is remembered for the time he beat up a fan with a shoe. The guy is a joke.
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01-20-2021, 10:14 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Jables16
Babcock strikes me as having become a coach so that he could wield power over people and manipulate them psychologically for his amusement. While his personality is incredibly bland and uncharismatic there is a way that he can still be an entertaining analyst. If he just starts letting his facade slip and displaying increasingly concerning sociopathic tendencies, like Dennis on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, there's no way I'd be missing one of his segments. I'm sure he has curated dossiers on everyone who has played for him over the years which could be a great ratings bump during playoffs.
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The problem with that is that he's I think pretty much guaranteed to use his new podium as a place to stroke his own ego and talk bs about people, and millions will believe him.
I mean, didn't we just learn the lesson that giving a sociopath an audience and treating him as entertainment is a really bad idea?
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01-20-2021, 12:36 PM
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#44
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I mean...who is offended/insulted by that and how is it insensitive?
To the players maybe because they can get distracted?
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I believe it's considered insulting because women have a long history of being blamed for the poor behaviour or performance of men. In this instance there's a lot of women who want to work in this field as journalists and are immediatley seen as eye-candy at best, unwelcome at worst. On the surface it is just a small comment, but it sits alongside decades of comments heard in sport, religion, or business meant to keep women in (or out of) a certain place.
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01-20-2021, 12:43 PM
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Franchise Player
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He should have apologized on air. Hardly an offence for which he should lose his job.
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01-20-2021, 01:11 PM
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#46
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
He should have apologized on air. Hardly an offence for which he should lose his job.
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He should not have apologized. He did absolutely nothing wrong. Simply because a vocal group of people perceived it as being offensive does not mean an apology is owed. It isn't hate speech. It doesn't incite violence. Welcome to reality, occasionally you might be offended by stuff.
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Originally Posted by kurwamac
you should look in the mirror and worry about yourself.. you fight for scraps in Canada - I've got it made keep tap dancing for a bunch of guys son - I've got it good where it counts boy
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01-20-2021, 01:42 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
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Men being distracted by women? Now I've heard of everything.
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01-20-2021, 01:46 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by VilleN
He should not have apologized. He did absolutely nothing wrong. Simply because a vocal group of people perceived it as being offensive does not mean an apology is owed. It isn't hate speech. It doesn't incite violence. Welcome to reality, occasionally you might be offended by stuff.
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Oh I agree 100% he did nothing wrong.
I was thinking an apology might have satisfied NBC, but who knows maybe they floated that and he told them to get lost.
I hope he sued NBC.
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01-20-2021, 01:49 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I mean...who is offended/insulted by that and how is it insensitive?
To the players maybe because they can get distracted?
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It isn’t about “sensitivity” or “I’m offended.”
Where does it add value tot the broadcast or provide any insight?
It doesn’t.
It’s useless at best. What woman who was thinking of watching hockey would be drawn to a statement like that.
Any reasonable person exploring hockey would easily say, “thanks but no thanks I’ll spend viewing time watching something that isn’t commentated on by complete morons.”
Of course if they were to investigate Milbury at all they would see he’s one of the biggest clowns and frauds in hockey history. Between climbing into the crowd to beat a fan with a shoe or trading Bertuzzi, McCabe, Chara, and Spezza for Yashin, and Linden. I’m sure Islanders fans have nightmares about his tenure.
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01-20-2021, 01:58 PM
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#50
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I mean...who is offended/insulted by that and how is it insensitive?
To the players maybe because they can get distracted?
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Men being distracted by women? Now I've heard of everything.
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Just because what he says may have a grain of truth doesn’t make it the right or proper thing to say, especially on national television.
It’s a basic concept of being respectful and polite.
It’s like walking into your friends house and his wife says...
“hey what do you think of my new painting.”
And you say...
“I think it’s ugly.”
You may be right. You also are neither respectful nor polite.
This is a basic concept for civil society. Any requirements of sports broadcasting exceed this. Milbury is a hack who has never been able to provide insight into the modern game. Why put up with this nonsense when there are more talented people to fill the position.
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01-20-2021, 07:24 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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It’s nothing like that. Making a very tame joke about how young men are distracted by women is so benign, obvious and generally true. Are we not allowed to make those kind of comments on tv? Let’s have every tv personality behave exactly the same, right down the middle, nothing that could be construed as mildly rude or offensive. This movement is going to consume itself.
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you should look in the mirror and worry about yourself.. you fight for scraps in Canada - I've got it made keep tap dancing for a bunch of guys son - I've got it good where it counts boy
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01-20-2021, 07:34 PM
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#52
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Originally Posted by Russic
I believe it's considered insulting because women have a long history of being blamed for the poor behaviour or performance of men. In this instance there's a lot of women who want to work in this field as journalists and are immediatley seen as eye-candy at best, unwelcome at worst. On the surface it is just a small comment, but it sits alongside decades of comments heard in sport, religion, or business meant to keep women in (or out of) a certain place.
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The problem is Everything is over analyzed, looking for a problem at every turn.
Beautiful women distract men, news at 11.
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01-20-2021, 07:34 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Yeah - nail on the head here. Not to mention men consistently portrayed as knuckleheads with beer guts in female circles. It may not be true, but is such a harmless thing that nobody should take offence to lighthearted stuff like this. People are turning into drones with no personality to walk on eggshells nowadays.
As for why he got fired, if I were to guess it's more because of Roenick's comments where those were the original shots fired. They'd drawn the line early and wanted to set the standard (probably wrongly but also probably scared of some lawsuit from someone). What's just as puzzling is Babcock though. If you want to set a standard you just don't hire a guy who's had a fuzzy past publicly. It's such a contradictory move.
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01-20-2021, 08:24 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
The problem is Everything is over analyzed, looking for a problem at every turn.
Beautiful women distract men, news at 11.
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No.
The problem is Milbury is terrible at his job.
End of story.
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01-20-2021, 10:43 PM
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#55
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He was probably warned to curb those type of comments and when he didn't - he got canned.
Networks are not going to take any chances with this stuff. They can simply hire someone that they know can do the job as well, and they don't have to be worried about them saying something stupid.
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01-21-2021, 08:36 AM
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Do we even have any proof he was let go for that specific comment? The dude has years of bad takes. Maybe his contract was up and they just chose to move on?
A company made a business decision about a poor employee. Sorry it triggered so many of you.
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01-21-2021, 08:55 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
He was probably warned to curb those type of comments and when he didn't - he got canned.
Networks are not going to take any chances with this stuff. They can simply hire someone that they know can do the job as well, and they don't have to be worried about them saying something stupid.
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Oh?
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01-21-2021, 10:03 AM
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#58
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
They can simply hire someone that they know can do the job as well, and they don't have to be worried about them saying something stupid.
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And that guy is Babcock?
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01-21-2021, 10:08 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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As much as I dislike Babcock, he’s unlikely to do anything publicly on air. He’s a behind the scenes guy. He’ll be that annoying know it all on the air with his cliches and technical talk. Still can’t ignore his past issues with players. It really takes the cake but he sold some exec on Mike Babcock, and whatever Mike Babcock wants, Mike Babcock gets. I can’t believe with his Lebrun interview he said he wouldn’t be interested in the team Canada position because it was someone else’s turn. Like, who said he was considered with all the baggage aired out? Goodwill gesture my butt.
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01-21-2021, 10:40 AM
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"Controversial guy with strong opinions leads to additional interest and viewership"...news at 11.
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