02-25-2021, 11:49 AM
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#102
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And I Don't Care...
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The land of the eternally hopeful
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As a fellow human I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he can get to the point where he can live a pain free, addiction free life but man, I can’t imagine being that wealthy AND that cheap.
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02-25-2021, 12:04 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
"Will have to pull the black box event recorder from the vehicle"
Vehicles have black boxes?
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Surprisingly, yes, many/most vehicles do.
Some insurance companies will provide discounts (or increases!) if you allow them access to these devices and they monitor driving parameters.
https://www.hyperlube.com/blog/blog/...e-a-black-box/
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02-25-2021, 12:07 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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I'm not clicking on any website called "hyperlube".
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02-25-2021, 12:25 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I think the story must have more to it too. It sounded like a pretty glitzy restaurant- I sincerely doubt (or at least hope) that the Navy Seal guys didn't suggest to Tiger they should all go to lunch there after the training. More than likely, Tiger suggested they all go to lunch.
This would also imply, because of Tiger's obscene wealth and relationship to the people training him, that he was likely to pay for the expensive meal at the place the Seals don't normally go. I would expect the same.
That said, I am making a lot of assumptions here. I agree that it is pretty unreasonable/ ####ty of anyone just to expect someone else to buy them a lunch, regardless of relative financial situations. But there are many circumstances in which wealthy people's actions do convey an idea that they will pay for things for others, and this is where i could see Tiger being completely unaware of the norm or how he says things being perceived.
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02-25-2021, 12:42 PM
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#106
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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I don't think it is that complicated. I am not rich, but if I ask my buddies to help me move, or if I need a ride to the airport or something, I am at a minimum buying lunch or a case of beer or something. If I was worth 100's of millions, and the other guys are pulling 30k a year, yeah, I better pay the tab and not be a cheap prick about it.
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02-25-2021, 12:57 PM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sunnyvale
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Originally Posted by Lubicon
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Easiest way for an insurance company to get out of paying in the event there’s a claim.
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02-25-2021, 02:38 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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A lot of those Navy Seal guys suffer from life-long injuries, PTSD, and are at a high risk for certain types of cancers due to all the chemicals they are exposed and vapourized lead they breathe in. To them, it's not a game or a hobby. For Tiger Woods, it is.
The least he should have done was pick up the tab. I know people who aren't millionaires that would have done it.
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02-25-2021, 02:50 PM
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#109
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Uncle Chester
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Do we know that his training sessions with the seals were free of charge? They allowed Tiger to come play fantasy soldier multiple times for free? I'm just wondering, if it was a pay for play situation then maybe Tiger felt less inclined to pay for the meals.
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02-25-2021, 03:47 PM
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#110
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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This is hilarious, it just keeps going and going.
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02-27-2021, 02:40 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jayswin
This is hilarious, it just keeps going and going.
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No kidding, Tiger Woods has probably given more to charity than any other athlete in history
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02-27-2021, 03:47 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
No kidding, Tiger Woods has probably given more to charity than any other athlete in history
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quite possibly true, but that doesnt mean he cant be a cheap ######bag, charitable donations are a useful tax avoidance and PR move
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02-27-2021, 04:14 PM
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#113
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Lifetime Suspension
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Maybe the Seals were total jerks so he chose an expensive restaurant on purpose.
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02-27-2021, 09:26 PM
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#114
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Maybe the Seals were total jerks so he chose an expensive restaurant on purpose.
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This... Who knows if they're chuckling behind Tigers back while doing this. IF that is the case then F them but I doubt it.
if they're genuine and donating their time... A free lunch would be the least he could do IMO. These guys don't make a much $$$$ but the do enable the Tigers etc to live their life and make tons of cash...
Average people making average salaries quite often pick up the tabs for public servants out of gratitude which is amazing. Not sure how Tiger felt right about splitting that bill. He likely is a strange fellow due to the environment he was brought up in.
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02-27-2021, 11:51 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
quite possibly true, but that doesnt mean he cant be a cheap ######bag, charitable donations are a useful tax avoidance and PR move
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Tigers foundation isn't just about donations for tax write offs, he spends up to 6 weeks a year of his time traveling all over the country on it, Forbes has named his foundation #1 for transparency and money donated for celebs for many years. The guy simply does a lot of good for kids on a personal level.
Seems silly to call him a cheap ######bag over what could have been some sort of mistake or misunderstanding
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02-28-2021, 01:36 AM
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#116
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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If you want a good insight into Tiger Woods as a person I woud suggest you read Hank Haney's book on Tiger
"The Big Miss, My Years Teaching Tiger Woods".
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The Big Miss excerpt in Golf Digest last month laid the foundation of Tiger's obsession with the military, his Navy SEAL experimentation and the toll it took on his body. What absolutely blew my mind was Tiger's answer to this question from Haney:
"Tiger. Man, what are you doing?
Are you out of your mind?
What about Nicklaus's record?
Don't you care about that?"
Tiger's answer—which, OK I'll admit, it's shocking—is worth the price of the book.
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The picture Haney paints is that Tiger was going to be a difficult student, that he wasn't just going to accept what Haney was saying. Trust would have to be hard earned.
The message Tiger wanted to send was clear: "When I play bad, when I don't win, it's your fault."
It was a blend of selfishness, obsessiveness, stubbornness, coldness, ruthlessness, pettiness and cheapness that somehow turned out to be both good and bad, depending on the situation he was in.
Haney admitted to being one of Tiger's enablers, though. He never really challenged Tiger to be a better human being, but he never really saw anyone else do it, either.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nk-haneys-book
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02-28-2021, 02:00 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Tigers foundation isn't just about donations for tax write offs, he spends up to 6 weeks a year of his time traveling all over the country on it, Forbes has named his foundation #1 for transparency and money donated for celebs for many years. The guy simply does a lot of good for kids on a personal level.
Seems silly to call him a cheap ######bag over what could have been some sort of mistake or misunderstanding
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well two points, first I didnt say he was a cheap ###### I just said he could be one, and secondly I would expect his charity to be nothing less than top notch, the Livestrong Foundation is peerless and has helped hundreds of thousands of cancer patients but even Lance Armstrong has admitted he was a ###### (and for the record I love Armstrong and think he was screwed).
Top notch athletes have top notch charities, it is part of the job, at a certain point in their career their manager and PR team tell them its time for a charity, it is priceless publicity, a massive PR win, a tax write off and can be played as a hugely useful part of damage control if someone is caught doping or whoring, Tiger Woods is a brand, he makes his money selling things, good PR is a huge part of that.
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02-28-2021, 10:07 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
well two points, first I didnt say he was a cheap ###### I just said he could be one, and secondly I would expect his charity to be nothing less than top notch, the Livestrong Foundation is peerless and has helped hundreds of thousands of cancer patients but even Lance Armstrong has admitted he was a ###### (and for the record I love Armstrong and think he was screwed).
Top notch athletes have top notch charities, it is part of the job, at a certain point in their career their manager and PR team tell them its time for a charity, it is priceless publicity, a massive PR win, a tax write off and can be played as a hugely useful part of damage control if someone is caught doping or whoring, Tiger Woods is a brand, he makes his money selling things, good PR is a huge part of that.
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Off off topic, but how was Armstrong screwed? He's one of the biggest cheaters ever.
How can you love a guy who built his career and fortune by doing nothing but cheating, and being a huge hypocrite in his facade in covering it.
I dislike tiger but can at least respect his career.
#### lance Armstrong
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02-28-2021, 11:11 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GordonBlue
Off off topic, but how was Armstrong screwed? He's one of the biggest cheaters ever.
How can you love a guy who built his career and fortune by doing nothing but cheating, and being a huge hypocrite in his facade in covering it.
I dislike tiger but can at least respect his career.
#### lance Armstrong
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Cycling is the dirtiest sport I’ve ever seen. It’s the only sport where you NEED to use performance enhancers or competing at the highest level is impossible.
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03-01-2021, 06:54 AM
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#120
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Cycling is the dirtiest sport I’ve ever seen. It’s the only sport where you NEED to use performance enhancers or competing at the highest level is impossible.
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If there ever was an athlete that was screwed by the system it was Ben Johnson. Every single person on that line was juiced up and he was the only one whos life was destroyed. They are all a bunch of liars. The ones with the best doctors get away with it.
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