01-11-2019, 05:55 PM
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Franchise Player
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NHL testing new player/puck tracking tech -- could be leaguewide next season
I'm surprised there wasn't already a thread on this. Both Sportsnet and The Athletic have stories on this today.
This week, for the first time in a regular season game, the NHL has been testing new microchips embedded in the puck and players' jerseys to track a wide variety of in-game activities in ways that have never been possible before. The new tech was previewed during Vegas' two home games this week (which coincided with the massive Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas).
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...mean-nhl-fans/
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Expect some news during all-star weekend
The NHL will announce its Player- and Puck-Tracking plans during All-Star Weekend Jan. 26-27 in San Jose. Commissioner Gary Bettman was determined to make it work. Word is the league made a significant financial investment into the research and development.
“We spent well into seven figures on this,” he said Thursday night. “That shows the commitment of the owners, their faith in our vision.”
“(The Commissioner) also told us, the information has to be available in ‘real-time’ or don’t bother,” said David Lehanski, the NHL’s senior vice-president of business development & global partnerships.
Is he satisfied?
“Yes,” Bettman answers, before continuing. “Originally, we saw this as a broadcast application. Nobody knew when we started that we would see legalized gambling.”
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https://theathletic.com/761837/2019/...atch-the-game/
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“We have literally had to invest in developing technology that didn’t exist, that would be capable of covering our game in real time,” Bettman said.
In the past six years, the technology came a long way, thanks in large part to a European tracking company called JogMo. They installed the necessary data collection equipment over the past few months at T-Mobile Arena, using the UNLV college hockey team as guinea pigs to fine-tune the antenna before using it in a real NHL game.
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This is live video from last night's game between the Sharks and Golden Knights. With the overlays, it looks like a video game.
With the NHL's current statistics system, they track about 350 events per game (with one event being something like a shot, hit, or save). This new technology can track about 10,000 events per game.
Once implemented, we should finally have some truly "advanced stats".
This has the potential to completely change how we watch the game and drastically change the way we understand the game.
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01-11-2019, 06:10 PM
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Oh my....cue the "shot streak" once more....for the clueless....
Not sure this does a lot for me/fans. Maybe for coaches?
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01-11-2019, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by taxbuster
Oh my....cue the "shot streak" once more....for the clueless....
Not sure this does a lot for me/fans. Maybe for coaches?
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This will help to drive a statistics revolution in which analysts will be able to track actual puck possession, as opposed to depending on proxies for it like shot attempt splits.
It’s not for everyone, but will be massively interesting and important to hockey observers beyond coaches.
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01-11-2019, 06:17 PM
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If we have to watch on TV the same thing shown on that video then you can count me out as a hockey fan.
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01-11-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Buff
If we have to watch on TV the same thing shown on that video then you can count me out as a hockey fan.
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Doubt they would, but it would be pretty cool to have a small puck highlight or a few popups used sparingly to help spice up the broadcast.
Quickly show a centers current F/O% during the setup etc. I'm ridiculously excited for the possibilities of this from an analytics and broadcasting perspective.
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01-11-2019, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by getbak
This has the potential to completely change we watch the game and drastically change the way we understand the game.
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Not be to accused of being a luddite but hope not. Game is pretty good the way it is. Just cut down on the stick infractions, the head shots, open up scoring by limiting stay puft goalie equipment and hey, we're good.
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01-11-2019, 06:30 PM
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Can this technology help determine if the puck did cross the line or not retrospectively?
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01-11-2019, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
Can this technology help determine if the puck did cross the line or not retrospectively?
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It was in!
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01-11-2019, 06:32 PM
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I can't wait for this data to show how bad the Oilers suck.
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01-11-2019, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This will help to drive a statistics revolution in which analysts will be able to track actual puck possession, as opposed to depending on proxies for it like shot attempt splits.
It’s not for everyone, but will be massively interesting and important to hockey observers beyond coaches.
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This will be huge, and very welcome.
It will be interesting to see which statistics darlings in the current system (teams and individuals) are seen in a different light.
Most interesting to me will be what data becomes available to categorize shots and infer shot quality, particularly the contextual info prior to shots. Hopefully a model emerges that allows for an appropriate evaluation and comparison of goaltender performance.
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01-11-2019, 07:06 PM
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Looking forward to learning all the undiscovered measures of Oiler suckage!
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01-11-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Buff
If we have to watch on TV the same thing shown on that video then you can count me out as a hockey fan.
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Excellent work doing a deep dive into reading the articles before stating your well informed opinion.
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”The important thing to understand is that if you are someone who just wants to sit down and watch a game — no frills, no odds, no virtual reality — you’re going to be able to do that. The NHL and NHLPA do not want to alienate anyone who prefers it that way. But, if you want a different experience — and everyone knows the younger generations crave one — good news is coming.”
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01-11-2019, 09:45 PM
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This kind of tracking has massively changed how baseball players are scouted and evaluated. And now how they train.
Hockey is a different sport but this will change the game no doubt.
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01-11-2019, 09:51 PM
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
Can this technology help determine if the puck did cross the line or not retrospectively?
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Yes, time travel is also one of the features of this new technology.
I kid, I know what you mean. That is the one thing that I was hoping it would do.
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01-11-2019, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This will help to drive a statistics revolution in which analysts will be able to track actual puck possession, as opposed to depending on proxies for it like shot attempt splits.
It’s not for everyone, but will be massively interesting and important to hockey observers beyond coaches.
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This is the thing I've been waiting for.
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01-11-2019, 10:09 PM
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This is going to give analytics a huge shot in the arm both in reliability as well as a bunch of new and more insightful metrics. It really will revolutionize analytics for hockey, and I really look forward to it.
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01-11-2019, 10:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by lazypucker
Can this technology help determine if the puck did cross the line or not retrospectively?
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considering picking up Sam Bennett for your keeper pool?
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