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Old 12-17-2019, 07:41 AM   #501
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I don't know anything about Boeing's financials but realistically how long can they survive the Max situation until some sort of bailout is required? I believe they just paid Southwest $250 million for losses and I'm sure other airlines are pounding at their door asking for money as well. JPMorgan stated that will suspended production Boeing will still be bleeding $1B even month in overhead and associated labour costs. If/when a fix is determined for the existing Max fleet I'm sure it will cost billions for Boeing to retrofit the aircrafts.

How long until Trump has to sign over a big cheque?
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:27 PM   #502
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The Onion went there:

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I'll give them credit, that picture is actually a Max aircraft. They have already done better than half the 'real' media organizations who are forever showing incorrect, or old/dated aircraft in their coverage.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:59 AM   #504
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Boeing's Starliner mission to the ISS is off to a rocky start:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1208006454902431744

https://twitter.com/user/status/1208034782447382530
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:12 AM   #505
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Old 12-20-2019, 03:59 PM   #506
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An absolutely sick video on the behind the scenes making of the new Top Gun Maverick movie.

These just might be the greatest live action (non CGI) aerial combat shots in a movie forever (since the F35 and UAV's of the future won't have a two seat option)...



The shot when the Super Hornet goes to full burner in front of the CineJet....
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Old 12-21-2019, 07:58 AM   #507
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It's going to be insane, regardless of how the script/story are the aerial footage is going to be awesome. Apparently this French film has some baller aerial footage too:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Fighters
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Oh wow, that is some sick footage ACM footage indeed. Makes me wonder what kind of footage could be had with a Typhoon or Su-27. Hey , they have two seater variants...

As slick as those are to watch - Top Gun has factors that put it on another plane of existance.... Naval flight operations add a certain level of greatness topped off with the hero we all wanted to be growing up - Maverick himself.

That and there ain't no Chevaliers flying rubber dog shiz outta "HawngKawng"...

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Old 12-23-2019, 04:36 PM   #509
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Boeing fires (asked for resignation) their CEO, who took over after the MAX program was already in production. He is being replaced with their CFO. Guess the cost/corner cutting culture that caused the 737 MAX issues will continue.

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The Company also announced that Dennis A. Muilenburg has resigned from his positions as Chief Executive Officer and Board director effective immediately. Boeing Chief Financial Officer Greg Smith will serve as interim CEO during the brief transition period, while Mr. Calhoun exits his non-Boeing commitments.
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Old 12-23-2019, 04:55 PM   #510
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Boeing fires (asked for resignation) their CEO, who took over after the MAX program was already in production. He is being replaced with their CFO. Guess the cost/corner cutting culture that caused the 737 MAX issues will continue.



https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2019-12...ership-Changes
CFO is only acting as interim CEO for a few weeks while they transition to the new guy. But new guy is still a current Boeing board member so your point may be valid.
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Old 12-23-2019, 05:12 PM   #511
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No bailouts for Boeing. Hopefully their stocks crater and the company is done for. That's the only way any accountability will be achieved.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1213180804161056769


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...415232?cmp=rss


Wheels up! Up I said! Oh no.

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Sunrise planespotting at YYC a few days ago, featuring Air Canada's first A220-300 at the 1:56 mark:


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No surprise, Air Canada and WestJet push the MAX back in their schedules again:

"Air Canada said it recently opted to push back the return of the Boeing jet through March 31. WestJet said it has pulled its 13 Max planes from the schedule until March 4."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/air-...ring-1.4752510
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No surprise. Will be interesting to see how the eventual return to the fleets go (assuming this happens). Depending on how the re-certifying goes each airline will be affected differently:

If the MAX is reinstated with a common type rating (like it was originally) Westjet has a slight advantage as their entire 737 pilot group would essentially be permitted to fly them. AC has to retrain their entire 737 pilot group as I assume they are not longer qualified on the aircraft.

If additional training is required then AC may have a slight advantage. They would still need to recertify their 737 pilots group but at least the pool is relatively small. WestJet would have to figure out which pilots to choose/train and then build pilot scheduling accordingly. It would not be worth it to update the entire pilot group and they would essentially be creating a new subset of pilots. Makes for a bigger headache than AC would have in this case.
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I’d love to know the details of the deal AC got to go with the MAX because it had to have been a doozie considering they already operated the A320 family.

Or was the retraining process for crews and maintenance not that big a deal considering they were also bringing on the A220s and needed to go through it anyway?

Or was the delivery schedule for the 320neos just too long by the time AC was going to get on board?

It just seems that with the nature of why these two families were developed there had to be one amazing reason to switch.
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I’d love to know the details of the deal AC got to go with the MAX because it had to have been a doozie considering they already operated the A320 family.

Or was the retraining process for crews and maintenance not that big a deal considering they were also bringing on the A220s and needed to go through it anyway?

Or was the delivery schedule for the 320neos just too long by the time AC was going to get on board?

It just seems that with the nature of why these two families were developed there had to be one amazing reason to switch.
AC would have been an almost all Boeing fleet at mainline, with perhaps the A330's sticking around for a while longer (and some A321's). So they would end up with a Boeing/Bombardier (now Airbus) fleet.
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If I remember correctly, AC got a significant discount on the MAX purchases as compensation for delays in delivery on the 787 program. Hence, the decision to move away from Airbus for the narrowbody fleet. I'm sure in retrospect, they would have stuck with AB, and ordered the 320/321neo as opposed to the MAX.

In some sweet irony, there is a good chance that part of the MAX compensation package will be in the form of credits for future 777/787 orders. I could see AC changing some of their MAX options to the 787, and then shift back to the 220/320/321 for future narrowbody orders.
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IIRC, Boeing also purchased 20 of AC's E190's as part of the deal.
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IIRC, Boeing also purchased 20 of AC's E190's as part of the deal.
That's absolutely right. The Jungle Jets were supposed to be gone by now, with the E75's having already been transferred to Sky Regional to fly under the Express banner. Obviously, those departures have been delayed due to the MAX issue.

It's a shame. The E90 was generally enjoyable to fly as a passenger, although they were not cost effective, hence the decision to replace them with the 220.
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