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Old 10-12-2016, 10:16 AM   #81
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that's what I thought, so he's definitely someone to be reckoned with. I guess a human could still kill him though?
You have got to think that they have some control over humans killing humans. My guess is that all the guns are fake, but it works like laser tag. When the bots are shot, they have a way of exploding form the inside to look like a gunshot. Otherwise, they would have to have some sort of control over when the gun shoots real or fake bullets. No way they could risk having humans kill humans in there, as there is no way for the guests to know the difference.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:20 AM   #82
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Pretty good podcast that follows up after each episode:
http://geeklyinc.com/category/westworld/
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:35 AM   #83
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If he isn't human, I suspect he is kind of a "tester" bot that doesn't have his memory wiped. They monitor him and let him run free to see how he evolves. Everyone could be in on it, or only Hopkins' character knows, and everyone else thinks he is just a weird rich guy. I think they said he has been coming for 30 years? Maybe he is Hopkins' brother...
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:55 AM   #84
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So the man in black is either human, if he can shoot robots and they can't shoot him, or a robot with super powers?
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:04 AM   #85
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Did anyone recognize the set with the cantina and the fountain? I swear it was in another movie or TV show.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:12 AM   #87
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Did anyone recognize the set with the cantina and the fountain? I swear it was in another movie or TV show.
There's always money in the bana... I mean western theme park
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There's always money in the bana... I mean western theme park
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Apparently it's a really commonly used set. Was also used in:

Django Unchained
The Last Stand
Magnificent Seven
Deadwood
The Lone Ranger
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For me it was the wedding scene in Tombstone that really made it look familiar.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:20 AM   #89
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According to this and this you'll also recognize it from about 10 other movies and tv shows.

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such as, The Lone Ranger, Wyatt Earp, Gunsmoke, Hopalong Cassidy, Annie Oakley, Rin Tin Tin, The Cisco Kid, and most recently Deadwood, Tall Tails, Last Man Standing, and Magnificent Seven.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:44 PM   #90
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So heres a question, typically HBO shows have a story arc, before they start filming there is a conclusion, Game of Thrones is a pseudo-exception to this although the producers knew how it was going to end before they got involved.

Is Westworld the same? Is there original source material that dictates how long this show is going to run for?
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I'd say this is pretty open ended.

There was a movie and then a short lived TV show. I doubt they are following either, except for the basic premise and maybe the odd nod or easter egg.
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I gotta wonder if there is a limited amount they can go with in the wild west...maybe they branch to other fantasy worlds?
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So heres a question, typically HBO shows have a story arc, before they start filming there is a conclusion, Game of Thrones is a pseudo-exception to this although the producers knew how it was going to end before they got involved.

Is Westworld the same? Is there original source material that dictates how long this show is going to run for?
The original movie is the original source material. Even though it was written by Michael Crichton (who wrote many novels that were adapted into screenplays), Westworld was not based on a previous novel.

In the movie, there are Medieval and Roman worlds in addition to Westworld, but the producers have said they don't plan on introducing those worlds on the show.
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Don't forget sex world

And serial killer world
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The original movie is the original source material. Even though it was written by Michael Crichton (who wrote many novels that were adapted into screenplays), Westworld was not based on a previous novel.

In the movie, there are Medieval and Roman worlds in addition to Westworld, but the producers have said they don't plan on introducing those worlds on the show.
My guess is it's a budget thing. Having all 3 worlds, would mean having 3 different types of sets. You have to use the Western one or the title of the show doesn't make sense.
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I was thinking about the Mexican village, not the old restaurant on 17th, but where the man in black shot everyone. What happens there? It's a bunch of robots out hanging around, with probably no humans for long periods of time, due to the remoteness of it. Just seems strange, what do the robots do, day in and day out.
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They follow storylines if I understand correctly. Everything is scripted.
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I was thinking about the Mexican village, not the old restaurant on 17th, but where the man in black shot everyone. What happens there? It's a bunch of robots out hanging around, with probably no humans for long periods of time, due to the remoteness of it. Just seems strange, what do the robots do, day in and day out.
They talk about it in the episode. They talk to each other debugging themselves becoming more and more human like.

The man in black scalps the one guy which shows some kind of map or else some kind of Nurel net revealing they are android. He's seeking the maze so I kind of assume that it's a map for the maze. The girl drops out of character when she says the maze is not for you which to me could mean it is unfinished content.

My MIB premise is this guy essentially moved into the came from the real world and doesn't leave. He is a super player who has seen all the moves been shot as a guest from every situation so can anticipate the next moves. Maybe he's been imprisoned by the corporation in this fake world trying to escape or just an eccentric billionaire.

So my theory is the Maze is the new naritive that Hopkins introduced and he and the MIB have some previous connection which will come to a head inside.
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So heres a question, typically HBO shows have a story arc, before they start filming there is a conclusion, Game of Thrones is a pseudo-exception to this although the producers knew how it was going to end before they got involved.

Is Westworld the same? Is there original source material that dictates how long this show is going to run for?
I seem to recall reading or hearing that showrunners Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy have at least 5 seasons planned out.

There's also no plans to visit the other worlds from the novel.
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I finally got around to watching the second episode tonight. I'm absolutely hooked. What a concept.

Of course, I've always been kind of a sucker for Baudrillard.
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