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Old 05-31-2016, 09:08 AM   #141
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Reading through these posts either people are putting things in recycling they shouldn't or I'm not putting enough in. I mean, if I have a cardboard box that has a bunch of french fry oil spilled on it, I would consider that cardboard box garbage. If that's still recyclable then I feel sorry for the sorters.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:16 AM   #142
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Reading through these posts either people are putting things in recycling they shouldn't or I'm not putting enough in. I mean, if I have a cardboard box that has a bunch of french fry oil spilled on it, I would consider that cardboard box garbage. If that's still recyclable then I feel sorry for the sorters.
What do you do with pizza boxes?
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I am not familiar with the details within the City of Calgary, but I have worked with many municipalities with their solid waste programs. The vast majority of them do not charge enough in collection fees to pay for their operations and the shortfall ends up coming out of general revenues (i.e. property taxes). It is only recently that cities are mandated to account for the full life-cycle costs of their landfills, including closure costs, through accounting standards. So I highly doubt garbage is a profit marker for the City of Calgary as some in this thread state.
In an ideal world people would pay the life-cycle cost of items up front when they first purchase it and not be taxed at disposal. When you buy something, whether it be a fridge or a box of cereal, you pay the full cost to get rid of it when you are done up front. Then it doesn’t cost you anything when it’s time to get rid of it as that program has already been funded. This way you would see way less illegal dumping and it would encourage manufactures to develop more environmentally friendly products and packaging. Unfortunately that is difficult to do as it requires municipal/provincial/federal and even international cooperation.
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I am not familiar with the details within the City of Calgary, but I have worked with many municipalities with their solid waste programs. The vast majority of them do not charge enough in collection fees to pay for their operations and the shortfall ends up coming out of general revenues (i.e. property taxes). It is only recently that cities are mandated to account for the full life-cycle costs of their landfills, including closure costs, through accounting standards. So I highly doubt garbage is a profit marker for the City of Calgary as some in this thread state.
In an ideal world people would pay the life-cycle cost of items up front when they first purchase it and not be taxed at disposal. When you buy something, whether it be a fridge or a box of cereal, you pay the full cost to get rid of it when you are done up front. Then it doesn’t cost you anything when it’s time to get rid of it as that program has already been funded. This way you would see way less illegal dumping and it would encourage manufactures to develop more environmentally friendly products and packaging. Unfortunately that is difficult to do as it requires municipal/provincial/federal and even international cooperation.
That seems fair. Tax new products because of their cardboard and plastic packaging but no tax if it's packaged in recycled material.

Don't we pay that already with the environmental levy though?
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:10 AM   #145
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Is there any real reason the City does it's own garbage/recycling collection? Smaller municipalities in Alberta seem to have no issue contracting to third party providers and companies like WM and Progressive seem to service the commercial market here without issue.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:17 AM   #146
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Is there any real reason the City does it's own garbage/recycling collection? Smaller municipalities in Alberta seem to have no issue contracting to third party providers and companies like WM and Progressive seem to service the commercial market here without issue.
Good question. Do you know if the revenue figures for the recycling are available anywhere? I've asked numerous times in the "I work for Nenshi" thread but never get an answer.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:25 AM   #147
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Reading through these posts either people are putting things in recycling they shouldn't or I'm not putting enough in. I mean, if I have a cardboard box that has a bunch of french fry oil spilled on it, I would consider that cardboard box garbage. If that's still recyclable then I feel sorry for the sorters.
They mentioned specifically that pizza boxes are ok to put in your blue bin on the pamphlet that came with it.

I'm pretty sure a splash of french fry oil is alright.

I do find waste management in general could do a better job informing people. In every public space I now have no idea if "recyclables" means bottles/cans, or more akin to what my blue bin at home can handle.

At work, the pamphlet, and Oxford's reps, tell us that coffee cups can go in the recycling. Every where else I've read says that they can't be recycled most places as it's a very specialized process.
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Is there any real reason the City does it's own garbage/recycling collection? Smaller municipalities in Alberta seem to have no issue contracting to third party providers and companies like WM and Progressive seem to service the commercial market here without issue.

Because mob.
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Fyi for anybody interested the city will be providing an in home green bin you can place under your sink.
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I'm so sick of the rediculous fees the city of chestermere charges with only being able to have 1 bag of garbage I don't really care anymore if something is sorted properly. At least in Calgary it is cheaper and you can put out more garbage every week.
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I'm so sick of the rediculous fees the city of chestermere charges with only being able to have 1 bag of garbage I don't really care anymore if something is sorted properly. At least in Calgary it is cheaper and you can put out more garbage every week.
Over the last couple of months, I got rid of a pile of home Reno waste that had been sitting in my yard, simply by filling my black bin every week. The last of the pile was actually picked up today, and now I'll go back to having only a small bag in my black bin every week.

Several weeks in a row, I filled the bin up with bricks, and I wouldn't doubt if those bins weighed well over 500 pounds.
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Reading through these posts either people are putting things in recycling they shouldn't or I'm not putting enough in. I mean, if I have a cardboard box that has a bunch of french fry oil spilled on it, I would consider that cardboard box garbage. If that's still recyclable then I feel sorry for the sorters.
Now, you could throw it in the green bin. That is all compostable.
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I'm curious to know if these programs are extended into the commercial level. I've seen what a restaurant or grocery store would throw out in one day, both blue and green bin materials, I feel like that would make a greater impact for less cost to the taxpayer.

One giant bin verses a neighbourhood of bins
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I'm curious to know if these programs are extended into the commercial level. I've seen what a restaurant or grocery store would throw out in one day, both blue and green bin materials, I feel like that would make a greater impact for less cost to the taxpayer.

One giant bin verses a neighbourhood of bins
In office towers there are highly stringent requirements for waste diversion with fines for not meeting them
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I think there was another discussion on green bins in a thread but I couldn't find it.

My green bin collection starts next week and I haven't started throwing food waste in there yet. Is there anything I should do before I start using it? We have the small counter top container and we will be using compostable bags but I'm wondering if there are any other steps I should take before filling the green bin up? I plan to keep the green bin in a shadier part of my yard so that it doesn't get too hot and stinky.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:15 PM   #156
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I think there was another discussion on green bins in a thread but I couldn't find it.

My green bin collection starts next week and I haven't started throwing food waste in there yet. Is there anything I should do before I start using it? We have the small counter top container and we will be using compostable bags but I'm wondering if there are any other steps I should take before filling the green bin up? I plan to keep the green bin in a shadier part of my yard so that it doesn't get too hot and stinky.
As long as you used decent quality bags you should be good. Keeping the bin in the shade helps for the minor spills from tears. The only other advice I can offer is try to put larger items like pumpkins that don't fit in bags in the bin as close to the collection time as possible. Some napkins or paper towels at the bottom of the bin help prevent things from getting stuck to the bottom.
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As long as you used decent quality bags you should be good. Keeping the bin in the shade helps for the minor spills from tears. The only other advice I can offer is try to put larger items like pumpkins that don't fit in bags in the bin as close to the collection time as possible. Some napkins or paper towels at the bottom of the bin help prevent things from getting stuck to the bottom.
Cool. We have some large absorbent pads at work that might be good for the bottom of the bin
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So most things you bag before putting in the green bin?
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So most things you bag before putting in the green bin?
Yeah. We have some little plastic bags that we use to line the pail that came with the green bin. The bags are approved by the city.
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I think mine is supposed to arrive in September.
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