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Old 10-21-2022, 09:42 PM   #5041
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Reminds me of the Irish at the USA World Cup '02
Thankfully used car salesman Bontis and his clowns and the faceless CSB are far removed from the pitch and the team, and for that we have Herdman to thank...previous coaches were coerced by members of the CSA as part of the internal politics that ravaged that joke of an organization into being useless, and which is now of course impotent becuaebthey don't control the purse strings.

So no threat of Davies vs Herdman like it was Keane vs McCarthy in Saipan.

The issue isn't going away but won't reach the levels the Irish did because it doesn't affect the roster like 2002 did. With the spotlight on Canada for 2026 the CSA and CSB will have to make things right sooner than later to its NTs, but a guy like Westhead leading the charge to keep this story in front of Canadians is required for meaningful change.

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Old 10-21-2022, 11:29 PM   #5042
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Here's Westhead's link.

- Players still don't have a copy of the contract with the CSB.

- CSB didn't pay the CSA during Covid. That gave the CSA the right to terminate the CSB agreement, but they didn't.

- Player refusing to do sponsorship because all that ad revenue money goes to the CSB/CPL and CSA just gets their annual allowance.

- Over $100k spent (likely to some related company of one of the board members) to edit this YouTube series. Plan was to recoup that money by have it be picked up and run on TSN and Sportnet so hundreds of thousands could watch the feel good story in the weeks leading up to the WC. But Bontis was worried that TV rights holder MediaPro (One Soccer), in their deal with the CSB for CPL games, would sue...so, that's why it's relegated to YouTube, and only 28k people have viewed it as opposed to hundreds of thousands if they let TSN or Snet purchase the rights.

- Bontis cried poor saying to players in meeting they he inherited this "bad" deal with CSB when he became CSA President, but emails Westhead has, shows that Bontis was congratulated at the time of the CSB deal, when he was CSA Vp, for helping broker the deal. Pure two faced scum.

-Justification from the CSA spokesperson for the silly suit issue was that it was Bontis' first new suit in 10 years.

- Same CSA spokesperson saying that the $150k price tag for the last CSA AGM was "restrained" which only points out how much money they wasted on #### before then, meaning that much less money trickled down to fund all levels on soccer as a result, over decades...with no one anywhere being able to audit or knowing any the wiser.

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Outrageous.

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-soccer-tol...yers-1.1866057

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Old 10-22-2022, 11:06 PM   #5043
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This might be a cause that the players can rally and unite around. Go to war for the man next to you type of deal.

It could also be a disaster with disunity between players and association leading to massive distractions.

Frankly at this point my hope is Canada doesn’t get embarrassed in Qatar.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:22 AM   #5044
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This might be a cause that the players can rally and unite around. Go to war for the man next to you type of deal.

It could also be a disaster with disunity between players and association leading to massive distractions.

Frankly at this point my hope is Canada doesn’t get embarrassed in Qatar.
Nah the team on the field will be fine. They qualified with all this going on in the background and grew up in this system with all this sort of stuff going on in the background, so it’s nothing new, it has just come to public light, finally.

I am sure if you ask any MNT member from the last 30 years, none of this CSA political and behind the scenes garbage is new to them in one form or another, this team just had a strong leader in Herdman who wouldn’t give into the usual CSA suggestions, and, without the success they had, there was no brighter spotlight on the CSA and thus no Rick Westhead to take this cause up. Seriously, of all the press in this country, for the organization that oversees the largest participation sport in the country, only one guy is raising these red flags?

Again, Herdman ironically himself as coach because the CSA didn’t want to have the massive embarrassment of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and a year of time more to find a new coach after doing the same for the last one, and the last one didn’t want to deal with their #### after 8 months, so they moved the womens coach over in Herdman, overnight and without warning.

Other previous MNTs didn’t have this leader. That said, Herdman took the job and asked for assurances (because it was so rushed and CSA so desperate) that previous coaches didn’t get, probably most around meddling from people within the CSA, so he also has luxuries previous coaches (and their teams) didn’t have when dealing with the CSA day to day.

I am sure internally Herdman uses this Mickey Mouse organization as motivation and taking points with the players but you won’t see those speeches on this CSA produced series.

That said, post World Cup, it could get ugly. Herdman would have to be extended. Or maybe he wants to leave. Players will ratchet up demands that have yet to be addressed 7 months after they first came to light, but a CSA who was defiant at the time and still appears to be now. You have the star player taking up the mantle a bit already (Davies and used his likeness and jersey sales)and he should continue to use his influence to affect change. But, soccer will be out of sight out of mind in this country come January for a couple years.

I have no doubt there will be a bit of a house cleaning at all levels of the CSA for optics only, but like the history of the CSA, it’s just the next political infight to get the next semi corrupt leader who will come in and use buzzwords like “inclusion” and “making things right” (ie not handing in tracksuits) and have the support of half the CSA board and have enemies with the other half. Same old, same old.

And now the CSB is a huge x factor, who answers to no one, collects all the money generated by MNT WNT and provincial associations, as a for profit, and is involved through the 2026 WC.

With no qualifying to worry about, as mentioned WC soccer will be out of the big media spotlight in this country for the next 2.5 or 3 years probably until things like ticket packages and the 2026 WC draw occurs, so it’s good that there is a Westhead to have a voice for the players and to keep people in general informed of the BS ongoing behind the scenes with the sports national governing body….it’s never been done and the reckoning is required.

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CF Montreal imploding against NYCFC. Johnston is the only Canadian having a good match, Miller in particular has been bad
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The provincial bodies should withhold funds, the same way they're doing in hockey.
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I am 100% certain I ran my office and family World Cup bracket challenge through FIFA.com in 2018.

I can't find the new bracket challenge anywhere on FIFA.com. Am I stupid or is there not a bracket challenge this year because gAmBlInG
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Old 10-25-2022, 03:05 PM   #5048
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Finally I can judge everyone buying their fake Davies jerseys again...

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Good. He's the most marketable athlete in the country. Plaster his face everywhere and put Davies 19 on absolutely everything.
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Old 10-25-2022, 06:27 PM   #5050
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Well they better get the remaining sorted.. While Davies is our biggest and brightest, there are rumours that Jonathan David is being targeted by Manchester United. Obviously not as successful, but brand awareness is as high - and will contribute to his jersey sales. Our players are soaring on the highest stage, and Soccer Canada needs to be there in lockstep with them in their success.

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Well they better get the remaining sorted.. While Davies is our biggest and brightest, there are rumours that Jonathan David is being targeted by Manchester United. Obviously not as successful, but brand awareness is as high - and will contribute to his jersey sales. Our players are soaring on the highest stage, and Soccer Canada needs to be there in lockstep with them in their success.
Fully agree. But In the next 4 weeks?

For now it's all free $ for the CSB if they can take 40% of Davies endorsements...not so much jersey sales becuase the CSA never had foresight, even a year later, to purchase enough standard red Nike kits and slap their badge on them.

Only WC team not to have new kits since before qualifying, I think.


Edit: Looks like the deal cut for royalties is only on jersey sales, nothing else related to Davies likeness.

CSA should have plenty of kits finally ordered to sell in time for Christmas 2023.

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Yeah that's going to blow up right before the World Cup.

I still wonder if we see anything with Iran in the next two weeks...you'd think FIFA would love an excuse to get Italy in the World Cup too from a TV ratings perspective and they are the highest FIFA ranked country not in the world cup which would be the rumored replacement.

England-Italy
Italy-Wales
Wales-England
Italy-USA
England-USA

In the groups stages for that group....fireworks. Probably won't happen this late now but it's interesting.

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Leave it to the paisanos to try and sneak Italy into the WC
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Yeah that's going to blow up right before the World Cup.

I still wonder if we see anything with Iran in the next two weeks...you'd think FIFA would love an excuse to get Italy in the World Cup too from a TV ratings perspective and they are the highest FIFA ranked country not in the world cup which would be the rumored replacement.

England-Italy
Italy-Wales
Wales-England
Italy-USA
England-USA

In the groups stages for that group....fireworks. Probably won't happen this late now but it's interesting.
Who bribes better? The Italians or the Iranians? That's what FIFA wants to know.
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Bit late but congrats to Stephen Eustaquio on his first Champions League goal.

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IMO, our most important player. A 6, on a top 20 club.
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Does anyone know where I can get an authentic jersey? Everything I am seeing online is replicas
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