[Rumour] Kadri used his NTC to nix a trade to the Flames involving TJ Brodie

[gilligans_off]

I for one, didn’t want that little Weasel anywhere near this team. Can’t stand him. We’ll be happy we didn’t get him in the end.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Ferland has made it clear he is worried about his long term health. He has spoken numerous times about concussions.

Ferland is not the same guy who destroyed the Canucks. And he never will be again.

I mostly agree. And I never want to see him drop the gloves again.

But he was 3rd on the canes with 182 hits last season (Martinook with 199 in 11 more games). Would have put him 2nd on the Flames between Hathaway and Bennett. So yes he does bring what the flames are lacking.

[getoverit]

And how many games did he play?

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I mostly agree. And I never want to see him drop the gloves again.

But he was 3rd on the canes with 182 hits last season (Martinook with 199 in 11 more games). Would have put him 2nd on the Flames between Hathaway and Bennett. So yes he does bring what the flames are lacking.

[Gaskal]

I would be interested in Ferland if he wasn't dealing with recurring concussion issues. I no longer believe he can play the style expected of him without involving long term health concerns.

[bubbsy]

I gotta ask, sure feels like this was the flames plan A. How does it get this far, only to realize the main component coming back won't waive the ntc?

[Shazam]

Harumph to you I say Kadri!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by getoverit

And how many games did he play?

71. Which is why I agree about the injury concern.

But he still brings it, every game. That’s all I’m saying.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I gotta ask, sure feels like this was the flames plan A. How does it get this far, only to realize the main component coming back won't waive the ntc?

Probably because they would not have asked him to waive until it was close

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Probably because they would not have asked him to waive until it was close

I’m also thinking that it may NEVER have gotten to a point where Kadri was asked to waive for Calgary. Looking at the Colorado package, I have a hard time thinking the Flames were offering quite that good of a package. I think the 50% retention on Barrie was key for the Leafs.

It seems reasonable to me to assume Colorado jumped in with a better offer that the flames couldn’t or wouldn’t match, before the ask if Kadri was even necessary. This could explain the confusion about the waive/no waive of the NTC to Calgary with the media.

Either way, I’m pretty happy that we didn’t cough up that price for Kadri. We should be able to move to another target with the Brodie currency (it Kreider or some other comparable winger)

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by HitterD

I’m also thinking that it may NEVER have gotten to a point where Kadri was asked to waive for Calgary. Looking at the Colorado package, I have a hard time thinking the Flames were offering quite that good of a package. I think the 50% retention on Barrie was key for the Leafs.

It seems reasonable to me to assume Colorado jumped in with a better offer that the flames couldn’t or wouldn’t match, before the ask if Kadri was even necessary. This could explain the confusion about the waive/no waive of the NTC to Calgary with the media.

Either way, I’m pretty happy that we didn’t cough up that price for Kadri. We should be able to move to another target with the Brodie currency (it Kreider or some other comparable winger)

I've been thinking about this too... and even if we retained on brodie, one could argue that kerfoot+Barrie is a much better package than brodie + jankowski... so I wonder if toronto came back asking for Bennett.

[PugnaciousIntern]

So Brodie has almost been traded twice now.

Can’t imagine he will be with the team in the fall

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Couldn't agree more with this. With the do nothing off-season they've had, at best we can hope for another good regular season and another disappointing off season.
More heart/grit/tenacity/hating to lose, types desperately needed, not less.

It's been less than 3 weeks and it's been one day of free agency.

[PugnaciousIntern]

So Brodie has almost been traded twice now.

Can’t imagine he will be with the team in the fall

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by getoverit

And who would that be?

Kadri would be an amazing second line centre for this team and that's who they were targeting. The dream list for me is: Couturier, Kyle Turris, Brayden Schenn, Wennberg, and I'm sure there more.

This teams needs more depth down the middle.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

So Brodie has almost been traded twice now.

Can’t imagine he will be with the team in the fall

What was the other trade?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Yeah if you simply look at what the Leafs got for Kadri, and compare to what the Flames comparables would be, it makes a lot of sense why a Toronto Calgary deal didn’t happen.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I would be interested in Ferland if he wasn't dealing with recurring concussion issues. I no longer believe he can play the style expected of him without involving long term health concerns.

I don't even want him for the grit, I want him because he's a 40 point winger that could come in at a decent price

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I don't even want him for the grit, I want him because he's a 40 point winger that could come in at a decent price

That’s what Frolik is, and lots of people can’t wait to run him out of town

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

That’s what Frolik is, and lots of people can’t wait to run him out of town

Nobody wants to run him out of town, it's apparent he wants to leave and he's just a victim of his cap hit. I don't think you'd find many, if any, people here that actually want him gone because they think he's trash.

I love Frolik, but as a guy with one year left on his deal that makes about 1 mil too much on a team that needs cap space, he's a victim of asset management. The fact that his agent publicly whined about his ice time it seems like finding him an opportunity elsewhere can be a win-win

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

It's been less than 3 weeks and it's been one day of free agency.

True. I'll be happy if I've spoken too soon.