The Democratic Presidential Nomination 2020

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

New batch of polls post NH.

Pete and Amy still not viable nationally.

https://morningconsult.com/2020/02/1...hampshire-win/

Also of note, Bernie is now +10 on Biden nationally.

[PsYcNeT]

Man Bloomberg might be grosser than Trump

https://twitter.com/user/status/1227687382985662464

What 2020 Presidential contender said the following?
- "I'd #### that in a second,"
- "I’d do that piece of meat…”
- “If women wanted to be appreciated for their brains they’d go to the library instead of to Bloomingdale’s”
- Called women: “fat broads” & “horse-faced lesbian.”
Which 2020 Presidential Candidate said this?

Re: a female judge ruling against his policies “your safety and the safety of your kids is now in the hands of some woman who does not have the expertise to do it.”
Which 2020 Presidential candidate said this?

“I know for a fact that any self-respecting woman who walks past a construction site and doesn’t get a whistle will turn around and walk past again and again until she does get one.”
Which 2020 Presidential candidate said the following?

“Do you pay a lot to make your hair be two colors? Because now it's three with the gray.'

Testified that he wouldn't call the rape allegation genuine unless there was "an unimpeachable third-party witness."
Which 2020 Presidential candidate said the following?

- "If you looked like that, I would do you in a second."

- Told female employee to “Kill it!” when she informed him she was pregnant.
Which 2020 Presidential candidate described sexual harassment lawsuits as the follow?

- “If you don't give me what I want, I'm going to make a fuss." Lawsuits
Which 2020 Presidential Candidate said the following about rape allegations?

Testified that he wouldn't call the rape allegation genuine unless there was "an unimpeachable third-party witness."

And other sexual misconduct allegations
“I don’t know how true all of it is"
Which 2020 Presidential candidate suggested the following to female employees?

- "If I were a woman, I would wear high heels."
- "What is the guy dumb and blind? What the hell is he marrying you for?”
Which Presidential candidate suggested of a highly functional computer?

“does everything, including blowjobs. I guess, that puts a lot of you girls out of business.”
Answer to All despite the Trumpian tone: Michael Bloomberg. And the next thread will be similar statements on race and ethnicity.

[burn_this_city]

He was at the RNC and gave a speech in support of GWB in 2004. Dude is a chameleon.

[GirlySports]

You may want to start at the farthest point but you got to win the presidential election first. That farthest point cant take you out of the game

And sure Kennedy died but Mass elected a Republican to replace him showing that even they didn't go for healthcare.

[GirlySports]

And yeah Bloomberg is gross. I cant believe the moral high ground democrats would back him.

[Azure]

Bloomberg is going to cost the Democrats the election.

Everyone needs to get behind Sanders right away or they won't have a chance.

[driveway]

That's a silly and simplistic analysis. Any Democratic nominee is going to have an excellent chance of beating Trump.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by driveway

That's a silly and simplistic analysis. Any Democratic nominee is going to have an excellent chance of beating Trump.

Maybe I’m overly pessimistic but I think it’s more likely that trump gets re-elected no matter who the dem candidate is.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Man Bloomberg might be grosser than Trump

He also blamed blacks for causing the 2008 financial crisis... the guy is out of touch with the regular American not to mention racist. He'll never get the youth or minority votes needed to become President. His campaign does nothing but divide Democrats and amounts to tax avoidance and ego stroking.

Michael R. Bloomberg, the Democratic presidential candidate and former mayor of New York City, drew criticism on Thursday over newly surfaced comments from the height of the 2008 financial crisis in which he said that the end of redlining, a discriminatory housing practice, had helped contribute to the economic collapse.

Mr. Bloomberg has increasingly faced scrutiny over his record on race, including earlier this week after the re-emergence of remarks he made in 2015 about stop-and-frisk policing, a tactic that his administration used disproportionately against black people and Latinos and that he defended for years.

In newly resurfaced comments from a Georgetown University forum in September 2008, he pointed a finger toward the ending of a discriminatory practice against black Americans known as redlining.

"It all started back when there was a lot of pressure on banks to make loans to everyone," the billionaire said at the time. "Redlining, if you remember, was the term where banks took whole neighborhoods and said, 'People in these neighborhoods are poor, they're not going to be able to pay off their mortgages, tell your salesmen don't go into those areas.'"

Redlining refers to a historical government-backed practice designed to segregate black Americans into separate neighborhoods and bar them from access to home loans.

He went on: "And then Congress got involved — local elected officials, as well — and said, 'Oh that's not fair, these people should be able to get credit.' And once you started pushing in that direction, banks started making more and more loans where the credit of the person buying the house wasn't as good as you would like."

Bloomberg is accurate that risky loans helped spark the crisis, but experts since the crash have said communities of color were often the targets of predatory lending.

"It's been well documented that the 2008 crash was caused by unethical, predatory lending that deliberately targeted communities of color," said Debra Gore-Mann, the president and CEO of the progressive nonprofit Greenlining Institute, told the Associated Press, which first reported the remarks.

“Redlining specifically targeted black and brown communities and has been part of all the ways in which systemic exclusion from wealth and income has hit communities of color,” said Rashad Robinson, president of the civil rights group Color of Change.

“The fact that he and his campaign would try to redefine this rather than talk about how they’re going to solve it speaks to not just a level of tone-deafness about this moment that we are in, but a really deep dismissal of the pain that has caused so many families and so many communities,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/u...redlining.html

[Mathgod]

Based on some of the stuff I've been reading on Twitter, I'm afraid that a 2nd Trump term might be a near certainty. The general sentiment among progressives is that they'll be very reluctant to vote for a centrist like Bloomberg or Biden in the general. Likewise, centrists will be very reluctant to vote for a progressive like Bernie in the general.

However, Twitter is Twitter, and there's no guarantee that it's an accurate representation of the pulse of Democratic voters in general. Fingers crossed that there will be party unity when the time comes...

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Someone said it best here.

The message Sanders sells is "life sucks, the system is rigged against you, I'll make your life a bit better if you vote for me but systemic oppression means you're still ####ed", is not one people can get super excited about. It's just not.

That's not his message, but nice try.

[peter12]

Holy cow, I had just written off Bloomberg automatically- I had no idea he was such an asshat.

[GirlySports]

The question is, is day to day life really worse off for the average american (you) over the last 4 years?
Enough to move to what Bernie is selling?

With the economy the way it is and unemployment at 3.5%, I can't see this swing for change enough to win the presidency.

Trump is a solid favorite now. close to -200 with the bookies.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Trump definitely should be a pretty solid favorite, the Dems don't have a nominee who has an easy path, every Dem nominee has to overcome a significant hurdle to win. While I keep saying Bernie's only shot is the economy tanking, it's really the best shot for all of the Dem nominees. It's interesting to see how much Bloomberg is surging on the betting markets even with all of his baggage. If he was in the race from the start he might be the actual frontrunner right now.

[MoneyGuy]

I feel like if they weren’t political Trump and Bloomberg could be best friends. I could see them hanging in a bar drinking expensive Scotch and spewing racist, misogynist bullcrap.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I feel like if they weren’t political Trump and Bloomberg could be best friends. I could see them hanging in a bar drinking expensive Scotch and spewing racist, misogynist bullcrap.

They used to golf together.

[Azure]

To me it is hilarious how some Democrats are actually supporting Bloomberg while they've been yelling and screaming at Trump and all his 'issues' the past 3 years.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Trump definitely should be a pretty solid favorite, the Dems don't have a nominee who has an easy path, every Dem nominee has to overcome a significant hurdle to win. While I keep saying Bernie's only shot is the economy tanking, it's really the best shot for all of the Dem nominees. It's interesting to see how much Bloomberg is surging on the betting markets even with all of his baggage. If he was in the race from the start he might be the actual frontrunner right now.

$350Million will buy you a lot of ads, he's trying to buy the stupid vote. I'm sure if it looks like hes faltering he'll just throw more money at it.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

$350Million will buy you a lot of ads, he's trying to buy the stupid vote. I'm sure if it looks like hes faltering he'll just throw more money at it.

Yes, I'm sure he is the one releasing all of this, get the baggage out of the way before the opposition does

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Azure

To me it is hilarious how some Democrats are actually supporting Bloomberg while they've been yelling and screaming at Trump and all his 'issues' the past 3 years.

Name recognition is a thing and unless you're interested in politics and care to look into the candidates, a surface level awareness of a candidate will get the vote over an unknown.

[rubecube]

This #### is getting hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...faa_story.html

The Iowa caucuses fiasco robbed Buttigieg of the impact of his victory there. But it was a startling performance by a young, relatively inexperienced candidate whose strongest message has been the impracticality of social programs proposed by Sanders and other progressives.

While Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, posted a win Tuesday in New Hampshire, the bigger stories there, arguably, were Buttigieg’s strong second-place showing and Klobuchar’s breakout performance in finishing third. The two moderates together carried 44.2 percent of the vote, compared with Sanders’s 25.8 percent. Even if you add Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s 9.2 percent to Sanders’s total, the balance is toward the center, not the left.