Official (Alberta) Oil Discussion Thread

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by peter12

####ing Manchin. The one guy responsible for halting climate action in the US and of course he comes to Alberta. Ridiculous.

Jason Kenney more than happy to play that game.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by peter12

####ing Manchin. The one guy responsible for halting climate action in the US and of course he comes to Alberta. Ridiculous.

? What is your specific complaint? Why is he not supposed to go to Alberta?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

? What is your specific complaint? Why is he not supposed to go to Alberta?

The guy isn't much of a champion for anything but irresponsible fossil fuel development, but I guess that's still how Alberta likes it these days.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by peter12

but I guess that's still how Alberta likes it these days.

lol well that isn't true at all but believe whatever you want.

Also I have no idea what he's doing here either, for what it's worth. Just didn't know he wasn't allowed to travel to Alberta. Also also, you're aware the US still uses like, an absolute #### ton of oil, right? Like, the demand is rising, not falling. And they just cut off Russia as a supplier. You are aware of this, right?

[Table 5]

Let's not be naive. Fossil fuel development is the primary reason we're not all living like it's the 18th century. Perhaps peter would like it that way...think of all the top hats!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Let's not be naive. Fossil fuel development is the primary reason we're not all living like it's the 18th century. Perhaps peter would like it that way...think of all the top hats!

This is a strange thing to say.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by peter12

This is a strange thing to say.

Right? I always thought of you as more of a bowler guy.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Right? I always thought of you as more of a bowler guy.

Ballcaps or bald is my motto.

[Table 5]

After two decades of playing the forum bon vivant, and now you're trying to convince us you wear ball caps? Pish-posh, I don't believe it.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Table 5

After two decades of playing the forum bon vivant, and now you're trying to convince us you wear ball caps? Pish-posh, I don't believe it.

Well, Ebbets makes hats in a 7 7/8, so you better believe I'm a ball cap guy.

Wore this one to work today.

https://www.ebbets.com/collections/b...intage-ballcap

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

lol well that isn't true at all but believe whatever you want.

Also I have no idea what he's doing here either, for what it's worth. Just didn't know he wasn't allowed to travel to Alberta. Also also, you're aware the US still uses like, an absolute #### ton of oil, right? Like, the demand is rising, not falling. And they just cut off Russia as a supplier. You are aware of this, right?

Well if the goal is to get Biden and the democrats on board to import more Canadian oil and maybe actually build another pipeline or two, having our premier meet with the most reviled man in their party probably isn't the smartest way to go about it

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm more thinking along the lines of their potential actions around Hong Kong, Taiwan, and the South China Sea. Get their ducks lined up before taking action.

Could be a consideration, along with implications of China helping Russia, but I think they're also focusing more on developing countries where they don't have to deal with pesky environmental and labour regulations.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, Ebbets makes hats in a 7 7/8, so you better believe I'm a ball cap guy.

Wore this one to work today.

https://www.ebbets.com/collections/b...intage-ballcap

Peter you have a big head.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Peter you have a big head.

I know. It's actually shocking.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by peter12

The guy isn't much of a champion for anything but irresponsible fossil fuel development, but I guess that's still how Alberta likes it these days.

Alberta likes irresponsible fossil fuel development? Whats wrong with you?

Alberta is a world leader when it comes to CLEAN fossil fuel development.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Well if the goal is to get Biden and the democrats on board to import more Canadian oil and maybe actually build another pipeline or two, having our premier meet with the most reviled man in their party probably isn't the smartest way to go about it

No meeting with a Dem that has zero influence is the worst. Meeting a guy who killed build back better is very smart.

Manchin: “You want this Joe, well you will have to support more Canadian oil.”

That is until November, but before the Dems are flushed and Biden isolated, Manchin holds a crazy amount of power to get something done.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Azure

Alberta likes irresponsible fossil fuel development? Whats wrong with you?

Alberta is a world leader when it comes to CLEAN fossil fuel development.

What?

[Mazrim]

Manchin is the last person Alberta should be getting cozy with.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/c...conflicts.html

Mr. Manchin supplied a type of low-grade coal mixed with rock and clay known as “gob” that is typically cast aside as junk by mining companies but can be burned to produce electricity. In addition, he arranged to receive a slice of the revenue from electricity generated by the plant — electric bills paid by his constituents.

The deal inked decades ago has made Mr. Manchin, now 74, a rich man.

While the fact that Mr. Manchin owns a coal business is well-known, an examination by The New York Times offers a more detailed portrait of the degree to which Mr. Manchin’s business has been interwoven with his official actions. He created his business while a state lawmaker in anticipation of the Grant Town plant, which has been the sole customer for his gob for the past 20 years, according to federal data. At key moments over the years, Mr. Manchin used his political influence to benefit the plant. He urged a state official to approve its air pollution permit, pushed fellow lawmakers to support a tax credit that helped the plant, and worked behind the scenes to facilitate a rate increase that drove up revenue for the plant — and electricity costs for West Virginians.

In the middle of his second term as governor, Mr. Manchin handily won a special election in 2010 to fill the U.S. Senate seat vacated by the death of Robert Byrd. From a seat on the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, Mr. Manchin had an ability to shape federal policy governing oil, gas and coal.

He became one of the most vocal opponents to the E.P.A.’s proposed limits on emissions of mercury and other hazardous substances from power plants. The mercury regulations, which eventually took effect, were particularly threatening to plants like Grant Town, because gob generates more mercury per kilowatt of electricity when burned than traditional coal, according to Lisa Evans, senior counsel at the environmental advocacy group Earthjustice.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by peter12

What?

You may have spent too much time in the lower mainland Pete, you seem to have consumed the granola laden koolaid.

Free, abundant, zero emission energy just rolls down the Fraser valley from all the unicorns upstream.

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...-Crude-Rpt.pdf

Canadian oil sands extraction less carbon intensive than a conventional California barrel. Canada is a world leader in technology to reduce emissions.

[Suave]

The price of Oil has been stealing the spotlight lately but the thing to watch today is does Natural Gas HH pricing break $8USD today, sitting at $7.92 right now. AECO not far behind at $7.66 CAD yesterday.