09-21-2020, 06:40 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Haplo
Dahlin?
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Some distance below those three, IMO.
Last edited by timbit; 09-21-2020 at 07:37 PM.
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09-21-2020, 06:59 PM
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#42
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If I’m a Canuck fan, I would be rejoicing, no bonus or additional cap hit.
Who cares about these awards?
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09-21-2020, 07:03 PM
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#43
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
Ethan Bear with 3 votes. Lmao.
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Not surprisingly one of them is Jim Matheson.
Surprisingly one is Flames writer Darren Haynes.
The last one appears is Swedish broadcaster Jonatan Lindquist
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RUV...sR7kB4Oy9/view
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09-21-2020, 07:10 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
Ethan Bear with 3 votes. Lmao.
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Jim Matheson, Terry Jones and David Staples.
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09-21-2020, 07:11 PM
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#45
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Surprisingly one is Flames writer Darren Haynes.
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Trolling?
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09-21-2020, 07:45 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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At least Haynes gave him a 5th place vote. Matheson had him 3rd, ahead of Fox.
The only statistical category that Bear was ahead of Fox in was ice time per game.
I guess he also wins for scarier namesake animal.
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09-21-2020, 08:11 PM
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#47
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
My opinion on the three young stud D in the NHL. All are excellent. One is already great.
Heiskanen
Makar
Hughes.
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I'd flip Hughes and Makar, but yeah. I got roasted at the start of the year for saying Makar wasn't even the best D man in his draft. Glad everyone is coming around to see that.
The one thing to remember, and it does matter at their age is that Hughes is a year younger.
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09-21-2020, 08:43 PM
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#48
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
I'd flip Hughes and Makar, but yeah. I got roasted at the start of the year for saying Makar wasn't even the best D man in his draft. Glad everyone is coming around to see that.
The one thing to remember, and it does matter at their age is that Hughes is a year younger.
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Also, he played for a gawd-awful hockey team. That's got to count for something.
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09-21-2020, 08:56 PM
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
I'd flip Hughes and Makar, but yeah. I got roasted at the start of the year for saying Makar wasn't even the best D man in his draft. Glad everyone is coming around to see that.
The one thing to remember, and it does matter at their age is that Hughes is a year younger.
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Hughes is 3 months younger than Heiskanen. So yeah, you got that going for you.
Last edited by timbit; 09-21-2020 at 08:58 PM.
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09-21-2020, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Hughes is 3 months younger than Heiskanen. So yeah, you got that going for you.
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I mean, developmentally it's still a year due to age cut offs, no?
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09-21-2020, 10:18 PM
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
I mean, developmentally it's still a year due to age cut offs, no?
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No, probably not, from a physiological and psychological standpoint. One was born in late July....your guy was born 3 months later. The age cutoffs for the draft are not a difference maker re: development, especially considering where they played before draft.
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09-21-2020, 10:18 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Also, he played for a gawd-awful hockey team. That's got to count for something.
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They lost to the same team you did, but okay, I guess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
No, probably not, from a physiological and psychological standpoint. One was born in late July....your guy was born 3 months later. The age cutoffs for the draft are not a difference maker re: development, especially considering where they played before draft.
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Shows how much I know. I thought the draft cut off was in line with the age cut off that was played through growing up.
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Last edited by Blaster86; 09-21-2020 at 10:20 PM.
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09-21-2020, 10:25 PM
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
They lost to the same team you did, but okay, I guess.
Shows how much I know. I thought the draft cut off was in line with the age cut off that was played through growing up.
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Just watch them play. One is a legitimate star and plays a complete game. One might be a star. 3 months doesn’t change that.
No pun intended re:star.
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09-21-2020, 10:44 PM
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#54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Just watch them play. One is a legitimate star and plays a complete game. One might be a star. 3 months doesn’t change that.
No pun intended re:star.
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To be fair, one extra season in the NHL and two pro seasons outside of the NHL probably work in Heiskanen’s favour. Hughes is at least a year behind in development no matter how you split it.
It’ll be more interesting to see who the better player is between Heiskanen, Makar, and Hughes in 5 years than it is today.
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09-21-2020, 10:46 PM
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#55
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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We should've known it'd go to the Calgary kid.
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09-21-2020, 10:49 PM
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#56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
To be fair, one extra season in the NHL and two pro seasons outside of the NHL probably work in Heiskanen’s favour. Hughes is at least a year behind in development no matter how you split it.
It’ll be more interesting to see who the better player is between Heiskanen, Makar, and Hughes in 5 years than it is today.
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You’re right.
I have not seen a D like Heiskanen in a long long time. Probably overstating the case.
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09-21-2020, 11:05 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Just watch them play. One is a legitimate star and plays a complete game. One might be a star. 3 months doesn’t change that.
No pun intended re:star.
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Certainly not trying to argue that fact.
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09-22-2020, 08:48 AM
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#58
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The only surprising part is there are hockey writers are dumb enough to give Hughes third place votes.
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09-22-2020, 08:55 AM
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#59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
The only surprising part is there are hockey writers are dumb enough to give Hughes third place votes.
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I can see it. If they had Kubalik or Fox in the top 2, that would push him to third. Throw in a couple homer 2nd place vote for the goalies in NJD and CBJ and there are your 6 3rd place votes. There are more surprising 3rd place votes on that list that make you scratch your head.
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09-22-2020, 09:11 AM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
I can see it. If they had Kubalik or Fox in the top 2, that would push him to third. Throw in a couple homer 2nd place vote for the goalies in NJD and CBJ and there are your 6 3rd place votes. There are more surprising 3rd place votes on that list that make you scratch your head.
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Yes, and the argument is that Hughes and Makar should have been 1 & 2 on everyone's ballot. These are supposed to be professional hockey writers. It doesn't take an expert to see these two guys were lightyears better than the field.
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