I was fine with McAvoy going to make a hit on Johnny, what I didn't like was how his gloves/elbow/forearms were projected upwards towards Johnny's face/head.
That part of the hit is unacceptable IMO.
I'm not seeing that part myself. Where Johnny's head is is tough to avoid in this matchup, but it looks like he tries to push his opposite shoulder if anything
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I'm not seeing that part myself. Where Johnny's head is is tough to avoid in this matchup, but it looks like he tries to push his opposite shoulder if anything
Yea looking at it from that angle on loop it looks like it's just cause Johnny is really short that he gets the forearm, not due to an upward projection.
You're right, I'm all out of thanks but thanks!
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Late hit that targeted head. League must protect its stars and I think McAvoy should be gone for at least two games if not more. BTW those Flames fans who were having fun with Pettersson's injury should be ashamed of themselves.
I'm not seeing that part myself. Where Johnny's head is is tough to avoid in this matchup, but it looks like he tries to push his opposite shoulder if anything
Yeah good call I didn’t see that before.
He definitely shoved him, but I think that had more to do with the fact he didn’t take a single stride between lying on the ice and hitting Gaudreau. Was probably expecting more resistance (99% of the players in the league would have required it).
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He definitely shoved him, but I think that had more to do with the fact he didn’t take a single stride between lying on the ice and hitting Gaudreau. Was probably expecting more resistance (99% of the players in the league would have required it).
Lol, that's a really good point I didn't notice. He did come in at a glide once getting up, and without a push it's just a really awkward bump and hug
Lol, that's a really good point I didn't notice. He did come in at a glide once getting up, and without a push it's just a really awkward bump and hug
That would be the alternative to finishing the hit in this situation, a hug. And that may be a reasonable direction for the NHL to go one day. Same with chasing a puck into the end boards, let guys grapple and hold instead of hitting (in those very specific situations).
I still don’t mind this play, and it’s why most players don’t stop for a rebound on a 2-1 or break away, and they roll out to the corner. Because you’ll get creamed.
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That would be the alternative to finishing the hit in this situation, a hug. And that may be a reasonable direction for the NHL to go one day. Same with chasing a puck into the end boards, let guys grapple and hold instead of hitting (in those very specific situations).
I still don’t mind this play, and it’s why most players don’t stop for a rebound on a 2-1 or break away, and they roll out to the corner. Because you’ll get creamed.
There arguably shouldn't have been a hit to finish - that's why interference was called.
If it wasn't, just the shoulder would have done. Looking at it again, assuming McAvoy's elbow is where the stripes on his jersey arm are, that's the point of contact.
IMO once he made contact McAvoy didn't need to extend his arm and try to make a more violent hit.
That would be the alternative to finishing the hit in this situation, a hug. And that may be a reasonable direction for the NHL to go one day. Same with chasing a puck into the end boards, let guys grapple and hold instead of hitting (in those very specific situations).
I still don’t mind this play, and it’s why most players don’t stop for a rebound on a 2-1 or break away, and they roll out to the corner. Because you’ll get creamed.
And why we see Tkachuk go there every chance he can get.
There arguably shouldn't have been a hit to finish - that's why interference was called.
If it wasn't, just the shoulder would have done. Looking at it again, assuming McAvoy's elbow is where the stripes on his jersey arm are, that's the point of contact.
IMO once he made contact McAvoy didn't need to extend his arm and try to make a more violent hit.
I wish I could zoom in and loop this.
Shoulder to face. He spins right into it. Shoulder, directly to his face. Elbow isn’t involved at all.
And again, he’s hardly moving. He hasn’t taken a stride since laying on the ice. He pushes through for that reason.
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Shoulder to face. He spins right into it. Shoulder, directly to his face. Elbow isn’t involved at all.
And again, he’s hardly moving. He hasn’t taken a stride since laying on the ice. He pushes through for that reason.
I would imagine the fact he's gliding at the hit means he took at least one or two strides. I'm no physicist but I think it's impossible otherwise.
Elbow to face - That's what I see on both angles. And the fact he turns into it gives it more momentum. And then he follows through by extending his arm, not upward, but downward because that's the direction of the hit (and why McAvoy ends up bent over with his leg out).
Like was said above (or in the other thread) it's a useless debate at this point. It reminds me of the arena debate where people argue details of the plans but are against the entire notion of public money being used.
I would imagine the fact he's gliding at the hit means he took at least one or two strides. I'm no physicist but I think it's impossible otherwise.
You’re right it is a useless debate. But this is the stuff that annoys me about them. The video is linked right there (or in one of the two threads). You just need to watch it once to see him laying on the ice and take 0 strides (besides a half backwards crossover to turn around). And yet you’ve used it as part of the debate twice now.
But now we’re just bickering so I’m good to call it. Every one involved is safe and sound.
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Happy that it sounds like gaudreau is ok. His skill level is crazy... the penalty afterwards makes everyone not focus on how he blew past the defender and made a beautiful move on Rask at high speed... Rask made an amazing save to stop him. I think Johnny is going to have another awesome year.
The hit makes me miss the days when you never had to worry about our superstar... trying to hit iginla like that would only end badly for the other team because the following would be the result:
1) iginla would drop the gloves and beat the snot out of whoever did it; and
2) iginla would engage beast mode and score 2 goals in response
The lesson would be learned: don’t poke the bear.
No one really left in the league that handled himself like iginla did.
