Homeland

[getbak]

Well, this is discouraging: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/12/09/ho...ale-exclusive/


It's the kind of smell-your-own-farts interview you hate to read from a show runner.

But the reason we wanted Walden and Nazir both dead is we wanted to open the possibility that Brody and Carrie could have a happy ending, that their doomed romance was not doomed after all. The only way to make that happen was to off these two antagonists.

Ugh. The Carrie-Brody "romance" is the worst part of the show.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Last 20 minutes were pretty damn awesome. PVR cut off at the hour mark. Gonna have to record the replay and see the final couple minutes.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I haven't watched any of the episodes this season - I made it through season one on a weekend, I imagine I will do the same here. Hope it's good.

[nik-]

This season has had a lot of duds, but that episode was fantastic. Great Carrie and Brodie scenes, great Saul scenes. There were a couple of unrealistic things done to serve the story, but that was entertaining.

So ...

Spoiler!

Has Brodie remained loyal to Nazir this whole time or what? It's the rumour out there, and it has a lot more validity after today.

[zamler]

Just when I thought the show could not get any worse, they go and totally redeem themselves.

Originally Posted by nik-

Spoiler!

Has Brodie remained loyal to Nazir this whole time or what? It's the rumour out there, and it has a lot more validity after today.

Spoiler!

It would make sense. But Brody seems so genuine, and different. If he is still loyal to Nazir, the man has icewater in his veins, and is truly a monster. That would mean he played Carrie with incredibly mastery, even getting her to help Brody get out of the country.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Alright, I'm an idiot and forgot to actually hit record on the replay, so I ended up missing the last few minutes on the PVR.

The last thing I saw was

Spoiler!

was Brody and Carrie getting out of the car and Brody saying "you're not coming with me, are you?"

the next replay isn't until Tuesday night and I don't wanna wait that long. Did I miss anything big after?

[d_phaneuf]

Great finale

I think it was smart the way they dealt with the Brody issue, he can't stay in the forefront of the show but he's always going to be an option down the road

Saul 'The Bear' Berensen was fantastic this episode

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Alright, I'm an idiot and forgot to actually hit record on the replay, so I ended up missing the last few minutes on the PVR.

The last thing I saw was

Spoiler!

was Brody and Carrie getting out of the car and Brody saying "you're not coming with me, are you?"

the next replay isn't until Tuesday night and I don't wanna wait that long. Did I miss anything big after?

Spoiler!

They talk for a minute, she says she is going to clear his name and basically this is goodbye for now, not goodbye forever

he walks in to the forest

cut to Saul standing in a room with all of the victims of the explosion covered in sheets, he mentions to someone to check that the C4 matches the C4 they recovered when they arrested Roya and her crew

then Saul starts a Jewish prayer to himself, Carrie walks in and says "Saul" a few times (lighter and then louder, making it seem like Saul thinks he might just be imagining it), then he turns around, sees her and smiles

[d_phaneuf]

Leaves open the option that Brody was in on it and this was the plan all along

tons of things in the episode pointing to it

[Young-Sneezy]

i was really hoping for one of two endings to this:

1. Just as Carrie and Brody were saying goodbye, he looks at her and says something to the tune of "you're a ####ing idiot, haha, look at how you bought into my ####" cracks her over the head with the butt end of a gun, and runs off.

2. Carrie and Brody say goodbye, he walks away, and as she stands there Quinn comes out of the bushes (as he is a stalking master) and caps Brody like a baws.

neither of these happened... thats ok, I thought it was a solid ending to this season, and leaves lots of room open, which is nice.

[Flames0910]

IDK, I think we followed Brody's character too closely when he went to the memorial. We watched him park, saw him walk the wife in, take a seat, and then sneak away with Carrie.

Remember when he had the suicide vest, the guy was a complete nervous wreck and Dana knew something was wrong.

When was he supposed to move his car?

And then the leak of his video? Seems like he was set up to me.

[moon]

I know the US intelligence community has had some issues in real life but in this show they seem to be the dumbest folks around.

They basically are at the mercy of a schziophrenic analyst and even then had the VP killed as well as the CIA director and a ton of VIPs.

The black OP guy sees Brody praying as a Muslim and still thinks that he is a good guy and good to stay alive just because some girl is in love with him?

I like the show but it was much better in the first season when Brody was an unknown and under suspicision but not enough to act on him. Now that it is clear what he was and they let him stroll around like nothing and still have insane access to important people it gets frustrating.

I will stick with the show to see where it goes because they have done so much good with the show but they are getting mighty close to the unbelievable.

[nik-]

Well Quinn knew he was involved in a terrorist plot with a vest bomb, so I'm not sure how seeing him praying is any worse. The only thing that really bothered me is that there's no way they'd let a car be moved that close to so many VIP's.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by zamler

Just when I thought the show could not get any worse, they go and totally redeem themselves.

Spoiler!

It would make sense. But Brody seems so genuine, and different. If he is still loyal to Nazir, the man has icewater in his veins, and is truly a monster. That would mean he played Carrie with incredibly mastery, even getting her to help Brody get out of the country.

If this is true the creators are lazy and cheap. You can't withhold information from the audience and then have a "gotcha" moment. That's garbage.

[moon]

Originally Posted by nik-

Well Quinn knew he was involved in a terrorist plot with a vest bomb, so I'm not sure how seeing him praying is any worse. The only thing that really bothered me is that there's no way they'd let a car be moved that close to so many VIP's.

The seeing him pray to me would indicate that he still was under the brainwashing he experienced while captive.

But I do wonder who would have access to the CIA to move the car and how security wouldn't have wondered what the hell a car was doing parked there.I may be mistaken but this wasn't at some random funeral home with no security monitoring the going ons.

[VladtheImpaler]

... Not to mention, there would be video surveillance all over the place...

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

The seeing him pray to me would indicate that he still was under the brainwashing he experienced while captive.

He has never wavered in his Islam faith in the entirety of the show.

He has however wavered in helping Abu Nasir kill innocents to revenge the death of children by US drones.

You have to be able to separate the two. Assuming that he's "brainwashed" because he is still follows Islam isn't particularly fair. His religion and his terrorist potential are not the same thing.

[Table 5]

Anyone else notice the Tim Hortons product placement in the last few episodes? Every time they are having coffee, it's Tims.

[smoothpops]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

If this is true the creators are lazy and cheap. You can't withhold information from the audience and then have a "gotcha" moment. That's garbage.

Never watch the show, "Damages". That show did that pretty much for every season finale. It was brutal.

The thing i like about "homeland" despite it's plot holes and the mistakes the CIA makes, I never know what's going to happen next. The show is trying things that no other show has attempted, so we have to realize its not always going to be a smooth ride.

[LGA]

Spoiler!

Just got caught up. I would absolutely love it if it turned out Brody was loyal to Nazir and he had just completely played everyone.