07-06-2020, 07:51 AM
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#2081
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Matata
The Panama papers made it pretty clear everyone with lots of money is trying to hide it from the taxman.
Here's a mental exercise for you.
You earn $10B dollars. But you can get away with claiming $7B on taxes and hide $3B in offshore accounts, allowing you to avoid ~$1B in taxes. Do you
A. Keep the $1B you earned for yourself. Theres no punishment even if you get caught.
B. Give it to the government.
What percent of people do you think pick B over A? Can you really believe Gates will be one of those people, if so, I'd love to hear your reasoning, or are you just interested in arguing semantics based on an extremely unlikely scenario?
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So if Gates picks A, that makes him a predator? Does it make him a bad person? In either A or B, is he paying 3+ Billion in tax? I don't see your point in any of this.
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07-06-2020, 09:03 AM
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#2082
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
So if Gates picks A, that makes him a predator? Does it make him a bad person? In either A or B, is he paying 3+ Billion in tax? I don't see your point in any of this.
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I guess instead of just walking back the “Gates is a pedophile” accusation, it turned into “people as rich as Gates try to avoid taxes.”
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07-06-2020, 09:05 AM
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#2083
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Wormius
I guess instead of just walking back the “Gates is a pedophile” accusation, it turned into “people as rich as Gates try to avoid taxes.”
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One could infer from this line of reasoning that Tax-cheats are Pedophiles?
Well I'm glad we've wrapped this up then. With a neat little Bow on top and everything.
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07-06-2020, 02:22 PM
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#2084
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
The Panama papers made it pretty clear everyone with any money is trying to hide it from the taxman, ex wife, local municipality and anyone else that wants a piece of it.
Here's a mental exercise for you.
You earn $10B dollars. But you can get away with claiming $7B on taxes and hide $3B in offshore accounts, allowing you to avoid ~$1B in taxes. Do you
A. Keep the $1B you earned for yourself. Theres no punishment even if you get caught.
B. Give it to the government.
What percent of people do you think pick B over A? Can you really believe Gates or almost anyone else will be one of those people, if so, I'd love to hear your reasoning, or are you just interested in arguing semantics based on an extremely unlikely scenario?
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07-06-2020, 03:47 PM
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#2085
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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If they are doing what is allowed under law, then I can't fault them too much I guess.
If they are going against the law, or are purposely exploiting loopholes that are against the intent of law if not outright illegal, then I certainly do fault them. Not as much as I fault the system that lets them get away with it though.
Doing something that is technically not illegal doesn't mean it is morally the right thing to do. I mean, most billionaires pretty much factor in how much they have to pay in taxes when they decide how big of a salary to reward themselves or how much to charge for their products/services. But if I am being 100% honest, I don't know how I would act in a similar position. I can't say I am a saint either, but I would like to think that I would stay grounded in my beliefs.
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07-06-2020, 04:07 PM
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#2086
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
The Panama papers made it pretty clear everyone with lots of money is trying to hide it from the taxman.
Here's a mental exercise for you.
You earn $10B dollars. But you can get away with claiming $7B on taxes and hide $3B in offshore accounts, allowing you to avoid ~$1B in taxes. Do you
A. Keep the $1B you earned for yourself. Theres no punishment even if you get caught.
B. Give it to the government.
What percent of people do you think pick B over A? Can you really believe Gates will be one of those people, if so, I'd love to hear your reasoning, or are you just interested in arguing semantics based on an extremely unlikely scenario?
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Meaningless hypothetical dichotomies don't really meet your burden of proof in claiming that Bill Gates is illegally hiding money in offshore accounts. There are also legitimate reasons that people and organizations do use offshore accounts, the publishers of the Panama Papers even state that.
But hey, you do you, if you keep it up I'm sure Rio Tinto's stock price should start improving soon enough.
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07-06-2020, 04:15 PM
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#2087
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Matata
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Dude. You know you can upgrade your computer from Windows ME right?
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07-06-2020, 06:15 PM
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#2088
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Dude. You know you can upgrade your computer from Windows ME right?
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I almost blocked out that abomination.
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07-20-2020, 04:31 PM
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#2089
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Scoring Winger
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Twitch Streamers: A Warning
So where to start? I was shook up last night by things I saw online that involved Twitch and YouTube gaming channel personalities. I was shocked to the point where I barely got any sleep and the kicker is none of this involved me as I was only a passive observer.
Due to work circumstances, I cannot always watch Twitch streams live so I have a backlog of streams that I catch up on when my time and internet connection permit. The main set of streams I watch involve sets of internet personalities from Twitch many of whom cut their teeth on Youtube that collaborate on a set of ongoing interconnected stories which in my opinion is the most engrossing emotional experiences I have seen in my past 25+ years online.
I was finishing up another 3-4 hour video last night and something did not seem quite right, Characters (played by these celebrities) were suddenly removed and other group stories were abruptly ended with loose ends never addressed. It seemed messy and out of character from the story I was accustomed to. I then dug into the Twitch accounts of the players of the removed characters knowing full well I could be spoiled to future event(s) in the story(s) as I was not completely caught up, the decision was extremely hard to make.
I soon discovered that the Twitch channels for these characters many of whom had daily viewership in the high hundreds to the high thousands stopped all activity around a month ago. I then looked their names on google/youtube and discovered a few stories similar to this. One specific streamer/player character was accused by multiple women and children of grooming and or sexual harassment amongst other vile things.
As I said previously I have been around the internet for some time and I am confident that I am over twice the age of these channels average viewership. Many of my friends’ children are likely in these guys’ -I do not say this lightly- target demographic and by searching these forums for “streamer” or “Twitch” I did not find too many results so I figured I would do my good deed of the day and let everybody here know and to double down on monitoring their child's online activities especially during the pandemic.
P.S. If you are wondering why I am being vague about the specific type of game stream this story takes place in, I did not want to taint the seriousness of this topic with the perceived stigma of this game
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07-20-2020, 08:04 PM
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#2090
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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07-20-2020, 08:29 PM
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#2091
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07-20-2020, 08:40 PM
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#2092
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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07-20-2020, 08:58 PM
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#2093
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
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Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor sourcing of information. In 2017, Wikipedia banned the Daily Mail as an ‘unreliable’ source.
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07-20-2020, 09:03 PM
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#2094
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wherever you go there you are.
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07-20-2020, 09:24 PM
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#2095
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by troutman
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07-20-2020, 09:45 PM
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#2096
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by Cliche
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That seems like one worthy of further discussion.
It didn’t seem like anything was illegal and he wasn’t in a position of power, at least in some traditional sense, where he was a gatekeeper or something. I am confused about the “grooming” comments in the article, it kind of insinuates that underage girls were involved, but the article also says he isn’t do anything illegal.
Is he just a womanizer or is there more to it? He’s kind of like an embodiment of restaurants that only hire attractive women, but yet at the same time he doesn’t have any power to hire, fire, promote, etc.
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07-21-2020, 12:38 AM
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#2097
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: A place for Mom
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So Tara Sloan made a post tonight. I don’t know how to link a tweet.
Last edited by calgarybornnraised; 07-21-2020 at 01:31 AM.
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07-21-2020, 05:31 AM
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#2098
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wherever you go there you are.
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To link a tweet use the tags [ tweet] and [/ tweet]
what goes in between the 2 tags is the numbers in the twitter link
https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1283829542738591746
so just use everything that is bolded (the tweet that is desired to be reposted)
in between the tweet tags. Like the Youtube tag, no spaces.
to easily find the numbers I use the blue bird menu with the this post is not helpful and embed tweet links. the embed tweet link generates the url in the example above.
No instagram embedding.
Last edited by Cliche; 07-21-2020 at 05:38 AM.
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07-21-2020, 09:09 AM
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#2099
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1285339514584670214
Burger Records Issues Apology After Multiple Artists and Label Employees Accused of Widespread Sexual MisconductMembers of SWMRS, Black Lips, the Growlers, the Buttertones, Love Cop, Part Time, Gap Dream, Audacity, Tomorrows Tulips and Cosmonauts all face allegations of sexual misconduct https://exclaim.ca/music/article/bur...jpj1A7h42IOYNc
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07-21-2020, 10:36 AM
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#2100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Things not looking good for Carlson or Hannity.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/b...t-lawsuit.html
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A co-plaintiff, Cathy Areu, a frequent guest on Fox News programs, alleged in the lawsuit that Mr. Henry had harassed her, as well, by sending sexually explicit messages. Ms. Areu also described exchanges with other Fox News stars, including the anchors Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Howard Kurtz, that she called inappropriate and sexually charged.
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