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Old 07-12-2018, 10:08 AM   #2061
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Anything more on that Forsberg news from yesterday? Curious to see the ripple effect that would create. With the Flames and here.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:20 AM   #2062
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I still think the team is going to make at least one move. I just don't think this team is done for some reason and I really wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Bennett or Janko traded at some point, likely with Brouwer involved as well.
To what end?

Having players like Bennett and Jankowski in your forward depth is a strength. What would be the end goal in subtracting one of those two? To add a more expensive veteran who has proven more?

I think they've got their proven players, and now have a lot of younger players hungry to prove themselves and work their way up the line-up.

I could see them making another trade, but it makes very little sense to deal Bennett or Jankowski in my eyes.

We don't need to dump Brouwer, so offering up any type of sweetener to do that also makes no sense to me.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:35 AM   #2063
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Anything more on that Forsberg news from yesterday? Curious to see the ripple effect that would create. With the Flames and here.

The goalie from Chicago? We don't need him.
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Anything more on that Forsberg news from yesterday? Curious to see the ripple effect that would create. With the Flames and here.
I just saw a tweet with someone floating an idea. No news.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:39 AM   #2065
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When trading for Hall you have to take into account the off ice aspects to Hall. What are you giving up in Gaudreau for what baggage you are acquiring in Hall.

I think Hall's baggage is a big factor.
from what I hear, being traded was a wake up call for Hall and he's really matured over the last two years.
and he also applied himself more to work on his on ice game which he admitted he never took the off season as seriously.
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The goalie from Chicago? We don't need him.
Psst. Trying to change the subject. Play along.
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I don't think that anything you have written is incorrect.

I do know in office situations, we try not to wait until you know there is a serious problem before reacting, as by that time it's usually too late. It's better to try and get addicted people help before they hit rock bottom.

But the fact remains that people who partake in illegal substances are creating a possible problem, and employers need to be aware of that fact.
Rock bottom was being drafted by the oilers in the first place
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from what I hear, being traded was a wake up call for Hall and he's really matured over the last two years.
and he also applied himself more to work on his on ice game which he admitted he never took the off season as seriously.
https://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...le_with_d.html
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:45 AM   #2069
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I can see Johnny wanting to be closer to home. Especially with Guy getting older, already a health scare, and how tight Johnny is with his family. Some extent of Hamonic wanting to come to western Canada.

Johnny for Hall would be the only trade that would make sense, similar age range, similar position, similar point production.

I would probably do the trade today. We have way more depth than we've ever had. I would totally miss Johnny dangling but watching Hall stick it to the Oilers, that alone would bring me more pleasure and satisfaction.
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Anything more on that Forsberg news from yesterday? Curious to see the ripple effect that would create. With the Flames and here.
Why would that make any sense?

Forbserg is a 26yo who posted a .908 / 2.97 GAA last year in 35 games for a .467 Quality Start %
Rittich is a 26yo who posted a .904 / 2.92 GAA last year in 21 games for a .625 QS%

He only thing goalie A seems to have over goalie B is the fact that Crawford was more injured than Smith last year.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:01 PM   #2071
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I'm not sure that it would, which is why I was curious to see if it had any legs. Responses such as yours would be interesting to read as the debate of why they would make that move, what happens to the succession plan and who (if anyone) would have to be moved out would keep us busy for weeks.

My personal feeling? Management doesn't trust what we have to get through an extended period if Smith goes down, but also doesn't value the backup role enough to pay for a bonafide 1B which means we see shuffling of deck chairs with a young inexperienced goalie being replaced with an equally young equally inexperienced goalie * or * an Eddie Lack situation like last year.

Also, just out of curiosity, was Forsberg the goalie of record when the Monsters won the AHL Calder Cup?
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:14 PM   #2073
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Obviously they're making room for former Blackhawk Troy Brouwer.
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Obviously they're making room for former Blackhawk Troy Brouwer.
I actually wonder if they are making room for former Blackhawk Artemi Panarin.
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What would they give up for Panarin?

Saad? Cause that would be kind of funny.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:33 PM   #2077
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I already agreed that would be a problem. As any reasonable person would.

But until there is actually evidence of that happening, there isn't a problem,
Do you honestly believe that a player or his team would freely and voluntarily let you see that evidence? You don't know who has a problem until it gets bad enough to threaten his career.
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I don't 'honestly believe' anything that others project me to believe. That is not how I operate. And as already stated, I am done with the conversation you are trying to engage.
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Why would that make any sense?

Forbserg is a 26yo who posted a .908 / 2.97 GAA last year in 35 games for a .467 Quality Start %
Rittich is a 26yo who posted a .904 / 2.92 GAA last year in 21 games for a .625 QS%

He only thing goalie A seems to have over goalie B is the fact that Crawford was more injured than Smith last year.
Forsberg does have 1 thing over Rittich - he is signed already.
He is on year 2 of a 2 year, 1.5M deal. 750K cap hit, paying 800K salary.

Now while I doubt Rittich commands enough more than that to change solely for that reason, it could be a factor. If Rittich wants 2 years and management wants to keep backups on 1 year for now to reassess, there could be a couple of moves to bring in a guy who is signed and ship out the RFA rights to Rittich

Clutching at straws, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility
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to be fair, that was andrei markov he beat, hardly a speedster.
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