07-14-2018, 11:10 AM
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#61
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Springfield
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Originally Posted by James Mirtle
The live scores should be in place by next season.
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Make sure they can be turned off, some of us record and watch.
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Uh... Lance Uppercut.
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07-14-2018, 11:17 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by James Mirtle
The live scores should be in place by next season.
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Thanks James! Super pumped about this!
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07-14-2018, 11:17 AM
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#63
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#1 Goaltender
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Im already a subscriber to the Athletic, but Im not reading it much at all since the season ended. But I would love to see additional content similar to what Hockey’s Future use to do. They use to grade new/old prospects in the summer for every team in the NHL and rank team’s prospects relative to the rest of the league and an annual top list of the prospects not in the NHL with scouting reports.
That would be the type of content I wouldn’t be able to replicate or get anywhere else. There’s a lot of opinion pieces which are great. But a deep dive into prospects would be something that would keep me coming back.
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07-14-2018, 11:41 AM
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#64
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by csnarpy
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but you should really hire Darren Haynes.
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This post made me think of another area of sports reporting that is, in my opinion, underrepresented. Humour! Downgoesbrown basically has that niche cornered. Are there other up and coming writers that can combine sports with humour?
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07-14-2018, 11:58 AM
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#65
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
Im already a subscriber to the Athletic, but Im not reading it much at all since the season ended. But I would love to see additional content similar to what Hockey’s Future use to do. They use to grade new/old prospects in the summer for every team in the NHL and rank team’s prospects relative to the rest of the league and an annual top list of the prospects not in the NHL with scouting reports.
That would be the type of content I wouldn’t be able to replicate or get anywhere else. There’s a lot of opinion pieces which are great. But a deep dive into prospects would be something that would keep me coming back.
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I'm the opposite, in that I'm so starved for sports news in the summer I'm reading any article I can get my hands on. Subscription has been worth the money IMO.
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07-14-2018, 01:42 PM
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#66
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Yes. Stats should be used to support an argument, they shouldn't be the argument.
There is far too much grey matter in hockey for stats to be definitive. Yet so many articles today are simply a collection of stats that are attempting to create the argument: player/team A is better than player/team B because X. Not only are the conclusions drawn from those arguments unjustifiable on their own (see grey matter), but, as kermitology mentioned, the writing style is boring and one dimensional.
The trend to this 'analytics' style of writing does nothing for me, and I am sure as hell not going to pay for it. I want to see more articles about the players, more insight, more breakdown of video on set plays and strategies, and more behind the scenes stuff. I can get stats myself.
Oh, I would like to add one more point: never make the mistake that Sportsnet makes and have a guy like Spector providing Flame content. I would rather have no content than a thinly veiled piece from an Oiler homer, pretending to be an insider, and pretending to be unbiased. Integrity matters.
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This is why the Athletic should hire Darren Hayes, full stop. It's a huge bonus to the Athletic that he happens to be available right now, if they reach out I'm certain they'll be happy with what they get in him.
The perfect balance between providing data/info while telling it in a palatable story like manner. This would get me in 100%, although I was already swaying toward taking it up.
Last edited by jayswin; 07-14-2018 at 01:44 PM.
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07-14-2018, 02:12 PM
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#67
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Lifetime Suspension
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Get used to it, this is the future of journalism folks: you get what you pay for.
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07-14-2018, 02:20 PM
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#68
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#1 Goaltender
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Darren Haynes for sure...
Also would like to see more off ice stories about the people, its something really lacking in hockey. We all watch the games and have an opinion. We don't all know where players are from or what moves them. Feel more into the "story" of the team when I know the characters.
Less speculative trade stuff... Been done to death and is totally meaningless. Like reading someone's daydream.
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07-14-2018, 04:24 PM
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#69
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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More real facts and less opinion seems to round up everyone's request, oh and hire you know who.
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07-14-2018, 04:47 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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I'd also be entertained by detailed guest-expert breakdowns on individual techniques. e.g. Connor McDavid's skating, Johnny Gaudreau's head on a swivel, Patrik Laine's one-timer, Brock Boeser's wrister etc
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07-14-2018, 06:26 PM
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#71
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Calgary
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Would love to see Gare Joyce. Great writer and does the sort of depth pieces that make the Athletic great. Not necessarily a Calgary writer, but would be a definite follow.
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07-14-2018, 07:00 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charcot
Would love to see Gare Joyce. Great writer and does the sort of depth pieces that make the Athletic great. Not necessarily a Calgary writer, but would be a definite follow.
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Gare's a fantastic story-teller.
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07-14-2018, 08:08 PM
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#73
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Darren Haynes for sure...
Also would like to see more off ice stories about the people, its something really lacking in hockey. We all watch the games and have an opinion. We don't all know where players are from or what moves them. Feel more into the "story" of the team when I know the characters.
Less speculative trade stuff... Been done to death and is totally meaningless. Like reading someone's daydream.
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Yeah, it's telling when the most you find out about a guy off the ice is from the flames junior reporter segments.
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07-14-2018, 08:11 PM
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#74
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All I can get
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Also: Hire Dave Elston to do cartoons.
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07-14-2018, 08:45 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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In the comments of his latest FF80F post, Haynes responded to someone posting the link to the job posting:
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Thanks for this. Firstly, I really appreciate the support. Truly. I’m part flattered, part overwhelmed. As for The Athletic, there are some great writers in Calgary, who I think would be great fits. For ‘classically trained’ journalists in this city, especially sports, there’s been a lot of bloodshed in recent years as newspapers merge, etc. Now could I be a great fit for The Athletic? I’d like to think so, but I’m also not sure full-time is the right fit for me given everything else I have on the go. Life away from the rink is really busy. But we’ll see how things unfold. Thanks again. One way or another, one place or another, I hope to continue writing pieces about the local hockey heroes and who knows, maybe they’ll even play into May sometime! Have a great weekend.
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Link: http://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2018/...nally.html?m=1
Hope they can still come to some sort of arrangement; count me in as someone who would subscribe just to read his work (follow his Twitter feed in the meantime).
Alternatively, is there some way he could leverage CP’s platform? I admittedly know very little about the whole process but I know his work is very well received here...
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07-14-2018, 09:44 PM
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#76
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Fish Creek
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If I had more disposable income I would be an Athletic Supporter... er I mean a subscriber. Your price point seems very fair and maybe I will make adjustments to subscribe.
Getting Darren Haynes would be a very good step and I am sure his writing talents could work on multiple angles for many NHL teams not just the Flames.
Keep up the good work and Cheers to more success.
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07-15-2018, 12:26 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Yes. Stats should be used to support an argument, they shouldn't be the argument.
There is far too much grey matter in hockey for stats to be definitive. Yet so many articles today are simply a collection of stats that are attempting to create the argument: player/team A is better than player/team B because X. Not only are the conclusions drawn from those arguments unjustifiable on their own (see grey matter), but, as kermitology mentioned, the writing style is boring and one dimensional.
The trend to this 'analytics' style of writing does nothing for me, and I am sure as hell not going to pay for it. I want to see more articles about the players, more insight, more breakdown of video on set plays and strategies, and more behind the scenes stuff. I can get stats myself.
Oh, I would like to add one more point: never make the mistake that Sportsnet makes and have a guy like Spector providing Flame content. I would rather have no content than a thinly veiled piece from an Oiler homer, pretending to be an insider, and pretending to be unbiased. Integrity matters.
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Interestingly, it's our friend Delow who does the best job of using video to illustrate what he is writing about.
He's surprisingly a very, very good read
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07-16-2018, 08:44 AM
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#78
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Already a subscriber and will almost certainly re-up when my subscription comes due. Love the more in depth analysis pieces from guys like Bourne and Dellow, especially how Bourne uses video to illustrate his points. Also read everything Eric D writes, just great story-telling.
Things that I'm looking for from The Athletic moving forward: - More day-to-day type updates on the Flames (injury updates, prospect pieces, etc.)
- Better organization of non-major leagues on the website. I love that there is coverage of things like the Canadian national soccer teams, the CPL, the CFL and women's hockey but finding those articles on the site is very tough (most end up under the Toronto section). I even came across a golf writer at one point, but no idea where his stories are located.
- Darren Haynes - however much he can give with his schedule, he's worth having.
- Behind the scenes stories of Flames history such as how certain trades/signings/draft picks came together or just pieces on how former Flames remember their teammates (like what was done when Loob was hired)
- Elston - he posts new cartoons on occasion on Twitter and would be great content if he's interested
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07-17-2018, 01:51 PM
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#80
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Could Care Less
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+1 for more high level, highly technical analysis of in-game plays.
And also, +1 for off-ice and behind the scenes stuff.
It’s everything in the middle that we don’t need. That’s essentially what CP does already.
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