03-19-2019, 11:35 AM
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#221
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Meelapo
Is it common for a two story home to have an all-in monthly Enmax bill (gas, electricity, water, carts, etc.) around the $310-$360 mark? My wife and I try to be as stingy as possible when it comes to resource uses but $300 seems a lot. It looks like a majority of the bills are service fees but I don't know.
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Lately I've noticed even if we are away for ~2 weeks the utility bill stays relatively the same. The amounts only tied to usage go down obviously since actual usage is down, but there are so many other things in there it can be tough to make a dent on a monthly utility bill.
I would be curious to hear from anyone who has bought a Jayman home recently as they keep advertising their solar panels on new builds
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03-20-2019, 08:26 AM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meelapo
Is it common for a two story home to have an all-in monthly Enmax bill (gas, electricity, water, carts, etc.) around the $310-$360 mark? My wife and I try to be as stingy as possible when it comes to resource uses but $300 seems a lot. It looks like a majority of the bills are service fees but I don't know.
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We have a split level, 4 people.
All in - gas, electricity, water, sewage, garbage bins, etc - puts us anywhere from mid-200s to typically low 300s in total cost. Depends on season, weather, etc.
But the biggest influence and factor is honestly a) if my mother-in-law is over watching the kids (temp up significantly, tv on all day, every light on in the house all day, etc), and b) how much control I let my wife have over the thermostat....
Last edited by RedHot25; 03-20-2019 at 08:38 AM.
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03-20-2019, 09:24 AM
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#223
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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Jeeze. Ours has peaked at 450.
Not with this latest round. Thats what our last bill was.
2 floor. 2000sq ft
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03-20-2019, 10:49 AM
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#224
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Franchise Player
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Ours is always higher because of our stupid electric water heater.
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03-20-2019, 02:27 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15
Ours is always higher because of our stupid electric water heater.
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Do you happen to know how many kwH one of those uses a month?
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03-20-2019, 02:31 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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I'm not on enmax but the extra charges on bills are so stupid.
I could double my electricity use or cut it in half and my "elect." bill only changes 10 ish %.
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03-20-2019, 03:33 PM
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#227
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Do you happen to know how many kwH one of those uses a month?
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Sorry I don't. I can go look and see if it has a sticker on it later though.
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03-20-2019, 03:55 PM
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#228
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Weitz
I'm not on enmax but the extra charges on bills are so stupid.
I could double my electricity use or cut it in half and my "elect." bill only changes 10 ish %.
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A lot of those charges actually do scale with usage. I know because a few years back, the meter broke and Enmax ended up only charging me $22 for the month because it recorded 0 usage.
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03-20-2019, 04:58 PM
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#229
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Powerplay Quarterback
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$600 all in (Enmax - everything) for Jan 22-Feb 21. 3,700 Sq ft, two furnaces and a wife who’s home all day and cold blooded ... Jesus! Usual is $450 all in. Also had the garage heater going pretty hard so that was probably $75 of it.
Glad Feb is over!!
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03-20-2019, 08:02 PM
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#230
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Originally Posted by BigNumbers
$600 all in (Enmax - everything) for Jan 22-Feb 21. 3,700 Sq ft, two furnaces and a wife who’s home all day and cold blooded ... Jesus! Usual is $450 all in. Also had the garage heater going pretty hard so that was probably $75 of it.
Glad Feb is over!!
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03-21-2019, 08:57 PM
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#231
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Do you happen to know how many kwH one of those uses a month?
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Don’t see anything on the tank, but it’s a Giant Expert Plus 8 60 gallon if you really want to check it out.
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09-13-2019, 12:30 PM
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#232
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: The Corral
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Looking for some advice, should I lock in a electricity rate of 5.79/kWh for 3 years? I'm trying to look up the rate history but just wanted to know other peoples thoughts on this. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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09-13-2019, 01:32 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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You know that you will be saving like $4/month on 300 kwh usage vs the regulated rate which is at the price cap.
More money would be saved on lowering your useage.
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09-13-2019, 01:42 PM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Yeah I've stopped caring about it so much. I'm just on floating gas/electricity until I see a >50% rate hike on my bill and a bunch of news articles on expensive gas/electricity.
Not worth the hassle for something that affects like what, 10% of your bill?
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09-13-2019, 02:43 PM
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#235
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
You know that you will be saving like $4/month on 300 kwh usage vs the regulated rate which is at the price cap.
More money would be saved on lowering your useage.
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If you are only using 300 kwH per month how much lower can you go?!?
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09-13-2019, 03:27 PM
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#236
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Powerplay Quarterback
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300kwh is super impressive. I'm always trying to find ways to lower my electric usage and avg about 400-450 kwh a month
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09-13-2019, 03:36 PM
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#237
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: The Corral
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I’m averaging approx 400ish per month since Jan
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And (I am not making this up) statistically this is the Edmonton Oilers fourth best season in the last 13 years." via Rob Tychkowski's Twitter 1-23-2019
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09-13-2019, 05:22 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Originally Posted by Weitz
If you are only using 300 kwH per month how much lower can you go?!?
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I'm between 310 and 375 in the summer depending on the weather.
I have a new house with low power lighting throughout.
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10-19-2019, 04:45 PM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Originally Posted by Iggy City
Yeah I've stopped caring about it so much. I'm just on floating gas/electricity until I see a >50% rate hike on my bill and a bunch of news articles on expensive gas/electricity.
Not worth the hassle for something that affects like what, 10% of your bill?
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https://calgaryherald.com/business/e...er-changes/amp
This is the news that changed my mind. I'm now considering locking in.
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11-27-2019, 09:34 AM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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My Enmax plan expires in a couple of weeks, but I will admit to not knowing a heck of a lot about utility markets. And, from what I understand, the UCP followed through and removed the cap of 6.8 cents on consumer electricity rates.
So I am faced with a couple of options - stay on floating rate, but without the shield of the 6.8 cent cap. Or lock in for 1 year (5.89 cents), 3 years (6.29), or 5 years (6.59).
It looks like the rates have been at the cap of 6.8 for 11 of the past 23 months. The unknown, however, is how high would those rates have been without the cap.
It isn't life or death, as Enmax lets you lock in and unlock easily and frequently. With winter coming, I think that it might be prudent to lock in at 6.29 cents and see what happens, because even 6.29 would be below the rate of all but two of the last 12 months (March and April 2019).
Also, as mentioned in this thread, my actual usage makes up a small part of my bill anyway, after all of the fees and riders. I try my best to be energy efficient, but even if I cut my usage in half, my bill wouldn't be dramatically different.
So what is everyone else doing, in light of the consumer cap being removed? Wait and see? Lock in? I have traditionally stayed on a floating rate because any hit I take over the winter is recouped in the summer, and I think that I come out ahead. But that was with the protection of the consumer cap.
And, if this post wasn't long enough: natural gas seems like the floating rate is still the way to go, unless there are any regulatory/market changes coming. Thoughts?
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