Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Here’s my wish for the new CPC leader.

Please keep the needle in the centre and just be normal.

Everybody is centre though, remember?

Silly undefinable labels FTW!!!!

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Elvis has a better chance of coming back.

That's just one more election win.

Assuming the next election is in October 2025 and also assuming Trudeau stays on as leader and wins, he would have a mandate at that point through late October 2029, which I would say qualifies for "till 2030 or so".

• Will Trudeau stay on as leader through the next election? Probably.
• Will the Liberals win the next election? Probably, given the alternatives.
• Will Trudeau remain leader through the end of the next term? Maybe? His father stuck around until he was almost 65.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1569017944415379459

[Locke]

Lilley is off his nut.

I dont think there is any chance Poilevre can beat Trudeau and, frankly, I wouldnt want him to.

Trudeau is a window licking idiot. But at the moment he is essentially a harmless idiot.

I cannot say the same about Pierre. Trudeau has largely done his damage.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Ah, a fluff opinion piece from the Toronto Sun. That's hard hitting journalism right there.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Ah, a fluff opinion piece from the Toronto Sun. That's hard hitting journalism right there.

Which mainstream media outlet do you think is going to have anything positive to say about Conservatives? I realize your first inclination is to attack the source rather than argue the merits of the words printed.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Which mainstream media outlet do you think is going to have anything positive to say about Conservatives?

Every major newspaper in Canada not named The Toronto Star, including, but not limited to, The Globe & Mail, The National Post, and the entire line of PostMedia papers (Calgary Herald, Vancouver Sun, Edmonton Journal, Regina Leader-Post, Saskatoon StarPhoenix, etc.).

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Which mainstream media outlet do you think is going to have anything positive to say about Conservatives? I realize your first inclination is to attack the source rather than argue the merits of the words printed.

What is there positive to say at the moment?

I want fiscal conservatism. So that our social institutions are sustainable.

I know...it sounds insane and outlandish. Cant be helped.

I have acknowledged that within my lifetime fiscal conservatism is dead. So I'm out.

Social Conservatism? I think people should all have equal rights and largely be allowed to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own homes or within society within the constructs of their own lives. You know who shouldnt determine what people should do? The people who dont have to live with the consequences, ie. The Government.

I dont think the Federal Government should be in anyone's bedroom or home or personal life to any degree. To what advantage? Where is the Public Benefit? There is no 'Morality Police.'

I just want our institutions to be able to survive. Because if we keep spending money we dont have they will crumble, shrivel and die. Am I the one on crazy pills here? I care about this stuff? What people do in their homes privately is genuinely 100% none of my business.

But if Health Care, Education, Employment Insurance, CPP, OAS, EI begin to crumble...even as someone not really involved in any of those at the moment...thats a serious problem.

And those are problems that need to be addressed before 'Crisis.' Because if you only deal with that after the #### has hit the fan....then you're an idiot and you're too late.

Its hilarious around here sometimes.

"He's a Conservative Reactionist!!"

Yeah. Because I've acknowledged problems before they've come to an absolute apocalyptic tipping point?

I for one like to make sure that problems aren't burning my ass before I deal with them.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Which mainstream media outlet do you think is going to have anything positive to say about Conservatives? I realize your first inclination is to attack the source rather than argue the merits of the words printed.

Sure Yoho, the Conservative party is the only party that doesn’t have the money to buy any kind of mainstream media attention.

Do you honestly believe all of the things to post?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Sure Yoho, the Conservative party is the only party that doesn’t have the money to buy any kind of mainstream media attention.

Do you honestly believe all of the things to post?

Yes because that’s what the liberals are using to buy the media.

Google how much the legacy media “bail outs” were by the Grits.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Which mainstream media outlet do you think is going to have anything positive to say about Conservatives? I realize your first inclination is to attack the source rather than argue the merits of the words printed.

Oh, I read it. Basically it was a warm, great speech and if he continues to do that the Liberals are in trouble.

What's there to argue? It just reads like propaganda.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Oh, I read it. Basically it was a warm, great speech and if he continues to do that the Liberals are in trouble.

What's there to argue? It just reads like propaganda.

I read it more as foreshadowing.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Yoho

I read it more as foreshadowing.

[Locke]

I just wanted to clarify my stance...

The Government shouldnt be in anyone's home...except for the extreme stuff.

No 'Electrifying the Gay Away' or whatever...Why cant we just be reasonable people?

[Ozy_Flame]

Three years for Canadians to get a real good look at Milhouse. I suspect any sheen he has will significantly wear off and Cons will once again be like "welp, it's all we got at this point, let's have a go."

[flamesfever]

I hope everyone here takes the time to listen to Poilievre's acceptance speech on youtube, if they didn't watch it live.

[jayswin]

We're becoming like Americans where a good, warm speech means more than literally anything of substance in a politicians past or present. "Ooooh, but he can give a speech".

Yeah, no. The proof is in his nutty, far right leaning bull**** words that come straight from his own mouth.

[sa226]

It really comes down to whether or not you can look past the social issues or not.

I find that like many, I don't align with any political figure or party, as sad as it is, I'm looking for competence and not bat#### crazy.

You could make an argument that Polliviere could form a fairly fiscally competent government. Perhaps more-so than the liberals. But as long as he's hobnobbing with truck convoyers, and drawing from the Trump republican playbook, it's a hard no from me.

[MarchHare]

You could make an argument that Polliviere could form a fairly fiscally competent government.

Literally all the evidence points to the contrary.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont think there is any chance Poilevre can beat Trudeau

I don't see it as much of a stretch to be honest. Trudeau's lost the popular vote twice in a row to the conservatives and he's going to be even more tired and obviously corrupt in a few years time. PP doesn't need to do much more than Scheer or O'Toole to win.

I think this board might be missing how much of an issue housing affordability is for the under 35 population in major Canadian cities because the membership has aged out, mostly lives in Alberta which has been one of the only affordable housing markets in the country, and probably already owns property.