Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[timun]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I don't think either of you can math good enough to participate in a discussion on this topic. Maybe you guys are trolling, but IDK at this point.

1.21 jiggawatts?! Great Scott!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've often thought we need a cull. I know the joke of Sliver not like bears or whatever, but the truth is these man-eating monsters are roaming free and hikers and other users of the park are basically defenseless against them. This is good news if you don't like being mauled by a bear.

Originally Posted by Sliver

This is just anti-fear mongering.

Quality work

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Very nice. It proves that a mix of generation is ideal, and renewables continue become big pieces of that mix going forward (especially with more generation coming online).

Now, what about that 3 GW of natural gas electricity that was offline last night?

It really shows the need for grid scale batteries to supplement solar. That battery/gas/nuclear backup should be discussed when looking cost of solar vs other low carbon options like nuclear or Carbon Capture or importing Hydro from BC.

Essentially the grid need to work at peak load 100% of the time so the capital cost of back up and a market structure to ensure backup power gets built as solar is installed will be important to maximize solar while ensuring grid stability.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

It really shows the need for grid scale batteries to supplement solar. That battery/gas/nuclear backup should be discussed when looking cost of solar vs other low carbon options like nuclear or Carbon Capture.

Essentially the grid need to work at peak load 100% of the time so the capital cost of back up and a market structure to ensure backup power gets built as solar is installed will be important to maximize solar while ensuring grid stability.

Grid scale batteries would have helped or this particular issue, but they still can't cover the weeks long winter doldrums. I think we still need reliable generation for those periods. So then it is a question of what makes the most sense financially. Is spending on batteries for these brief issues worth it if we still need baseload for longer periods? That obviously requires a lot of number crunching.

[Torture]

When the NDP critic for Environment & Parks is an actual Grizzly Bear Biologist

https://twitter.com/user/status/1810781442923762034

[KelVarnsen]

Killing bears to own the libs. Classic

[Johnny Makarov]

Can we go fund me for some bear costumes for boobbus and her other deplorables?

UCP convention in Canmore!

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by GGG

If you look at bear attacks it’s often dogs that lead to the human fatalities so I think you are in a catch 22.

What catch 22? We just need a dog cull in addition to our grizzly bear cull. Easy peasy.

[Muta]

UCP logic: those bears are lazy socialists, not paying their taxes and sucking the provincial wildlife protection teat for free. Also, they probably support vaccines, abortion rights and Trudeau. Kill them! (Oh and by the way, use Minister Loewen's personally-preferred outfitting company for all your hunting camo, gun, crossbow, weaponry and ammo needs!)

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by GGG

It really shows the need for grid scale batteries to supplement solar. That battery/gas/nuclear backup should be discussed when looking cost of solar vs other low carbon options like nuclear or Carbon Capture or importing Hydro from BC.

Essentially the grid need to work at peak load 100% of the time so the capital cost of back up and a market structure to ensure backup power gets built as solar is installed will be important to maximize solar while ensuring grid stability.

Until there is clarity around what the market re-design looks like you will not see companies looking to invest in Alberta. I don't expect to see any movement on that for a couple years at the earliest and that puts you right smack into another election cycle.

I have wondered if the AESO will look at the Virtual Power Plant route, which essentially is a bunch of flexible loads that they contract with to manage demand during times where supply is tight.

We absolutely need more interties. One of the big challenges with interties is they are extremely unpopular with the incumbent generators as the interties don't participate in the energy only market.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Until there is clarity around what the market re-design looks like you will not see companies looking to invest in Alberta. I don't expect to see any movement on that for a couple years at the earliest and that puts you right smack into another election cycle.



I have wondered if the AESO will look at the Virtual Power Plant route, which essentially is a bunch of flexible loads that they contract with to manage demand during times where supply is tight.



We absolutely need more interties. One of the big challenges with interties is they are extremely unpopular with the incumbent generators as the interties don't participate in the energy only market.

Agreed. Virtual powerplants, transmission/line enhancing technologies, energy storage, and most importantly, interties are all basically unfunded in an energy only market. All of those things are solutions to a fixable problem.

I think Texas is a good example of where stubbornness ruins a good thing. If they just stopped being islanded, they wouldn't have such volatility and constant threats of power outage

[Faust]

Alberta's water conservation and management system needs major fixing, auditor finds:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...inds-1.7260114

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Faust

Alberta's water conservation and management system needs major fixing, auditor finds:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...inds-1.7260114

Eric Leonty, the assistant auditor general, also noted the system is mostly driven by complaints or self-reporting, which can be flawed.

The number of times non-compliance was reported was a lot lower than the instances found by the audit team.

"So it shows that that self-reporting mechanism is perhaps not as effective as needed when it comes to monitoring compliance," Leonty said.

That can include licensees reporting their water usage or identifying when they've exceeded their allocation, he noted.

Might I suggest skipping expensive monitoring systems and just having the minister decide on their own whim who gets what? Can't be any worse than "pretty sure my neighbour farmer John lied to you about how much water they took this year."

[Slava]

Originally Posted by fotze2

We’ve had these forever as do most jurisdictions. We have an entire market that rewards industrial demand to curtail.

I wonder if power traders get as annoyed with public opinion on it as doctors do with the antivaxx people.

I think that professionals in every area must get annoyed with public opinion and how easy everyone else thinks that they can do their job.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Slava

I think that professionals in every area must get annoyed with public opinion and how easy everyone else thinks that they can do their job.

Dunning - Kruger Effect is very real

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Dunning - Kruger Effect is very real

In my humble opinion, it's bordering on being an epidemic.

[cral12]

sorry for the fata

https://twitter.com/user/status/1811092392755544209

[Johnny Makarov]

Education is the work of the Devil!

Please stay stupid and ignorant!

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

In my humble opinion, it's bordering on being an epidemic.

100%. The YYC Politics thread, and the discussion around the new city branding, is but one shining example of this in full effect.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

I think that professionals in every area must get annoyed with public opinion and how easy everyone else thinks that they can do their job.

I think workers in general get annoyed with that. Which may be what you were trying to say, in which case we’d be in agreement for a change.