Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I think you are reading too much into this mechanism they claim to be building. I suspect the person making the call about a problem bear on their property is also going to be the one who happens to be closest by, and will be the proud owner of a freezer full of meat and a nice hide for their great room. Yup, that bear was a real problem all right.

Only if they shoot them in the spring, nobody wants a greasy fall bear.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Only if they shoot them in the spring, nobody wants a greasy fall bear.

The marbling on that rib roast though...

[Sliver]

I've often thought we need a cull. I know the joke of Sliver not like bears or whatever, but the truth is these man-eating monsters are roaming free and hikers and other users of the park are basically defenseless against them. This is good news if you don't like being mauled by a bear.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've often thought we need a cull. I know the joke of Sliver not like bears or whatever, but the truth is these man-eating monsters are roaming free and hikers and other users of the park are basically defenseless against them. This is good news if you don't like being mauled by a bear.

If you look at bear attacks it’s often dogs that lead to the human fatalities so I think you are in a catch 22.

More seriously assess the risk of driving vs the risk of fatality due to bear in the activities you choose to do in the park. Then realize that other people are your biggest threat that you are defenceless against.

The people mauled by bears in general are against the hunting of bears so don’t presume to speak for them.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I think you are reading too much into this mechanism they claim to be building. I suspect the person making the call about a problem bear on their property is also going to be the one who happens to be closest by, and will be the proud owner of a freezer full of meat and a nice hide for their great room. Yup, that bear was a real problem all right.

It’s coming right for us, South Park defense.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Don't forget the ad was done with the default Word font too. It looks like something handed out at churches on Sundays.

The documents and presentations done by my church are dramatically better quality than that. It's honestly not even close.

[powderjunkie]

Super-duper reliable fossil generation definitely made sure we didn't have another grid alert

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-e...lert-1.6956312

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

But there wasn’t an issue.
“We were not close to rotating outages."

[accord1999]

And it happened in the early evening when solar generation is rapidly weakening. With high Alberta temperatures correlated with weak wind, natural gas generators had to rapidly ramp up. Life for the grid would be easier if there 4 GW of coal/nuclear running continuously.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1810505124151705775

[Ozy_Flame]

That was taken at 830 PM. That's when the sun is setting and an awkward direction on south facing panels and wind usually ramps down.

Got some stats for 12 pm? 3 pm?

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Super-duper reliable fossil generation definitely made sure we didn't have another grid alert

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-e...lert-1.6956312

We’ve had these forever as do most jurisdictions. We have an entire market that rewards industrial demand to curtail.

I wonder if power traders get as annoyed with public opinion on it as doctors do with the antivaxx people.

[fotze2]

And the other side blaming solar. Fata I wish I saw the world as simple as most do.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

That was taken at 830 PM. That's when the sun is setting and an awkward direction on south facing panels and wind usually ramps down.

Got some stats for 12 pm? 3 pm?

I posted the 8PM tweet because that was close to when the grid alert was declared (8:25PM).


The 12PM data shows a lot more solar as expected but wind is still very weak. And when the sun is setting, that all needs to be replaced by ramping up natural gas.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1810384325956845719

[Ozy_Flame]

Very nice. It proves that a mix of generation is ideal, and renewables continue become big pieces of that mix going forward (especially with more generation coming online).

Now, what about that 3 GW of natural gas electricity that was offline last night?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Very nice. It proves that a mix of generation is ideal, and renewables continue become big pieces of that mix going forward (especially with more generation coming online).

Now, what about that 3 GW of natural gas electricity that was offline last night?

http://ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market...DReportServlet


A lot of that is probably cogen(and not offline, just less than MC) and Cascade 2 shows as zero, but I think that's because it is still under construction. Firebag is mostly offline because of forest fires.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GGG

If you look at bear attacks it’s often dogs that lead to the human fatalities so I think you are in a catch 22.

More seriously assess the risk of driving vs the risk of fatality due to bear in the activities you choose to do in the park. Then realize that other people are your biggest threat that you are defenceless against.

The people mauled by bears in general are against the hunting of bears so don’t presume to speak for them.

This is just anti-fear mongering.

[Ozy_Flame]

Sounds like incompetence in communication from AESO if the 3GW were not available.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by accord1999

And it happened in the early evening when solar generation is rapidly weakening. With high Alberta temperatures correlated with weak wind, natural gas generators had to rapidly ramp up. Life for the grid would be easier if there 4 GW of coal/nuclear running continuously.

There is pretty much zero reason to burn coal given the supply and price of gas. If we need more baseload, build those. We know how, they aren't hugely over budget, and can be done much quicker than nuclear.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Very nice. It proves that a mix of generation is ideal, and renewables continue become big pieces of that mix going forward (especially with more generation coming online).

Now, what about that 3 GW of natural gas electricity that was offline last night?

Originally Posted by accord1999

And it happened in the early evening when solar generation is rapidly weakening. With high Alberta temperatures correlated with weak wind, natural gas generators had to rapidly ramp up. Life for the grid would be easier if there 4 GW of coal/nuclear running continuously.

I don't think either of you can math good enough to participate in a discussion on this topic. Maybe you guys are trolling, but IDK at this point.

[Ozy_Flame]