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Resolute 14 · 07-16-2018, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I am not sure that's correct. I think they can buy out a contract as long as there are any arbitration filings (and can do so within 48 hours of 3 days after the last ruling or settlement).

Fair enough. I was basing off Cap Friendly, which said the window opens after the settlement of the final arbitration case. Logically to me, a case means going through the full process, not just filing. But it seems the other links clarify.

Toonage · 07-16-2018, 02:01 PM

Re: buyout window & arbitration

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...&postcount=148

Vinny01 · 07-16-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't see any way that happens. Hanifin has less to hang his hat on at this point than Lindholm does, plus he has more RFA years left.

Probably a bridge for $3M or less (likely less), or a longer term deal in the low to mid 4s. A 7 year number for Hanifin at this stage would probably be in the $4.35 - $4.5M range. But I doubt very much that he would want to sign that. So probably a bridge.

I think the deal is destined to be a bridge contract but I prefer they go max term as I feel that deal would be an absolute steal. I look at Trouba and the Jets likely could have signed him long term in the $5’s but have him the 2 year bridge and now rumor is he wants $8M. I would overpay on the Hanifin deal today so it keeps cap flexibility down the road.

theslymonkey · 07-16-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think the deal is destined to be a bridge contract but I prefer they go max term as I feel that deal would be an absolute steal. I look at Trouba and the Jets likely could have signed him long term in the $5’s but have him the 2 year bridge and now rumor is he wants $8M. I would overpay on the Hanifin deal today so it keeps cap flexibility down the road.

Except Trouba at 8M is silly.

Fire · 07-16-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Hathaway really isn't good. I really, really hope they don't bother to sign him.

I find it weird that people are already giving up on Hathaway. He will be a much better NHLer than Klimchuk imo. A big physical player that has some ability with the puck. His AHL numbers are as good if not better than Foo and Klimchuk. Seems perfect for the 12th/13th spot on the roster. With Ferland gone he will lead the team in hits next season if he plays 60+ games.

Toonage · 07-16-2018, 02:09 PM

We need to stop comparing players with longer stints in the AHL to younger guys that have just started in the AHL.

They really aren't comparable.

Vinny01 · 07-16-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

I find it weird that people are already giving up on Hathaway. He will be a much better NHLer than Klimchuk imo. A big physical player that has some ability with the puck. His AHL numbers are as good if not better than Foo and Klimchuk. Seems perfect for the 12th/13th spot on the roster. With Ferland gone he will lead the team in hits next season if he plays 60+ games.

Hathaway turns 27 less than 2 months into the season so he is significantly older than the prospects you compare him to. IMO Brouwer and Lazar seem poised for the 13/14 spot

Fire · 07-16-2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Toonage

We need to stop comparing players with longer stints in the AHL to younger guys that have just started in the AHL.

They really aren't comparable.

Klimchuk had 3 full seasons in the AHL with only one NHL game. I wouldn't call that just starting out. Hathaway only had one full season in the AHL before he started to get opportunities in the NHL.

sureLoss · 07-16-2018, 02:25 PM

Hathaway is easy waiver fodder. His cap hit will be low enough it won't affect the NHL team if buried in the AHL.

Gaudreau is a Ninja · 07-16-2018, 02:25 PM

im very happy/excited for this season

Toonage · 07-16-2018, 02:26 PM

Overt he past few days I've seen Foo compared to Klimchuk and Hathaway. Really its the comparisons of the two more established (for lack of a better word) players to Foo that I take a bit of issue with.

Sorry to have gone off topic.

dino7c · 07-16-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Klimchuk had 3 full seasons in the AHL with only one NHL game. I wouldn't call that just starting out. Hathaway only had one full season in the AHL before he started to get opportunities in the NHL.

One turned 23 in March
One turns 27 in November

Fire · 07-16-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hathaway turns 27 less than 2 months into the season so he is significantly older than the prospects you compare him to. IMO Brouwer and Lazar seem poised for the 13/14 spot

Brouwer is likely to be bought out imo. Lazar will be battling with Hathaway for a spot in the line-up. I would prefer Hathaway because of his physical presence.

If they want to keep Jankowski as a center next season I wouldn't mine seeing a Hathaway - Jankowski - Czarnik 4th line.

Bingo · 07-16-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

Nit picking but if Hathaway signs the qualifying offer he is at $715 k

He had to sign it last night. Didn't.

topfiverecords · 07-16-2018, 02:37 PM

Lucic 10G 24A $6M
Lindholm 16G 28A $4.85M

dammage79 · 07-16-2018, 02:41 PM

Getting Lindholm locked up long term and under 5m per season is amazing. This trade keeps getting better and better as the days go on.

oldschoolcalgary · 07-16-2018, 02:46 PM

pretty surprised that Tre was able to sign him to 6 years under 5million... i thought for sure that he'd be 5.150-5.25 for a 6 year deal.... and no NMC clause to boot?!

heck of a signing.

heep223 · 07-16-2018, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

None of that matters if he fails to get the team up the standings though. He's been here so long and sold away so much of the future in the form of draft picks that all those moves that look good in isolation need to add up at least a playoff spot right now. Otherwise he's very likely gone. And I don't mean "fans will want him gone" or "I want him gone", I just don't see the Flames giving him more chances.

I agree with what you're saying in regards to needing results now, but want to note that he's built a really nice young core and locked them up long term (acknowledging that some of the core were from pre-Treliving days).

That's far different than selling away the future for proven but post-apex vets, such as we've seen with this team in the past.

sureLoss · 07-16-2018, 02:58 PM

Treliving on 960 says they plan to have Lindholm to start on the wing at camp, but will leave where he ends up to the coaches.

circle · 07-16-2018, 03:00 PM

Here's Lindholm's interview on the Fan960: https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/pat-ste...lly-good-team/

The one thing that I liked that he said at the end of the interview is that he definitely sees himself scoring more goals. That is his focus for improvement in the coming years and he wants to be a consistent 20 goal scorer.