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Old 12-06-2020, 08:27 PM   #541
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I guess 2020 is the year of the draw. Australia with 3 draws in 6 matches, Argentina with 2 in 4, and finally the Autumn Nations final goes to extra time.
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Old 12-06-2020, 10:18 PM   #542
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I guess 2020 is the year of the draw. Australia with 3 draws in 6 matches, Argentina with 2 in 4, and finally the Autumn Nations final goes to extra time.
Great to see the Argies really compete this year
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Old 12-07-2020, 12:07 AM   #543
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Great to see the Argies really compete this year
Argentina not playing for over 400 days, then beating the ABs and finishing 2nd in the Tri-Nations is the rugby story of 2020.
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Hmmmmm not sure I agree with all these.
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Seems more like an amazing 2005-2015 Dream Team.

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Seems more like an amazing 2005-2015 Dream Team.
Who are your deletions/additions



I reckon I would drop North and move Smith to the wing, put that ####### Folau in the boot.

I'd drop Murray and put in Smith.

Maybe Alun Wyn Jones for Whitelock
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I'd put Read in for Parisse. Parisse was great but the timing just doesn't match up for me. Read was better for the whole 2010s and their peak was similar. Parisse's best was 07-11. To balance out the Kiwis, I'd agree with the Whitelock and Jones swap.



I'm split on Murray and Smith. Smith has definitely been more consistent, but Murray at his best deserves to be there.



I'd also swap out Ben Smith for Beauden Barrett. The guy was just too good to not be on the list. If only because he holds the humorous distinction of having that stretch of undoubtedly being the best player in the world without being the best fly half or fullback in the world.



I think you'd definitely need a sub for North ready to go. But it's actually kind of remarkable how long he's stuck around with the injuries he's had. Wingers have had better stretches (Julian Savea in 2014-15 probably as dominant as it could get, but the rest of the decade leaves a lot to be desired) but just flares here and there.
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I'd put Read in for Parisse. Parisse was great but the timing just doesn't match up for me. Read was better for the whole 2010s and their peak was similar. Parisse's best was 07-11. To balance out the Kiwis, I'd agree with the Whitelock and Jones swap.



I'm split on Murray and Smith. Smith has definitely been more consistent, but Murray at his best deserves to be there.



I'd also swap out Ben Smith for Beauden Barrett. The guy was just too good to not be on the list. If only because he holds the humorous distinction of having that stretch of undoubtedly being the best player in the world without being the best fly half or fullback in the world.



I think you'd definitely need a sub for North ready to go. But it's actually kind of remarkable how long he's stuck around with the injuries he's had. Wingers have had better stretches (Julian Savea in 2014-15 probably as dominant as it could get, but the rest of the decade leaves a lot to be desired) but just flares here and there.
Fair comment on Barrett, I forget how longer he has been around, and 89 caps before hitting 30 is amazing.

Reid was good but had tonnes of help. Parisse would make any nation's team. He was far and away the best Italy produced. Racking up 149 caps is just other worldly regardless of what nation.


I would take Smith at half-back all day long, and he continues to improve.
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Parise was great, I just think his great didn't span enough into this decade compared to Read. That '05-15 range he takes it no question, so I suppose for the international balance I'm fine with keeping him in.
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The draw for the France World Cup in 2023 was completed. It was a good result for Australia avoiding NZ, SA, and England. Canada could end up in A, C, or D if they qualify.

There isn't really a group of death this time with all of them looking challenging.

A: New Zealand, France, Italy, Americas 1, Africa 1.
B: South Africa, Ireland, Scotland, Asia/Pacific 1, Europe 2.
C: Wales, Australia, Fiji, Europe 1, Final Qualifier
D: England, Japan, Argentina, Oceania 1, Americas 2
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