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Old 02-01-2020, 12:23 AM   #2501
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Looking at replacing the light fixture in our entry, which is open up to the second story. So a ladder doesn't seem like a feasible option (it would be very long) so I'm thinking renting scaffolding from Home Depot or similar? Changing out a fixture is simple, it's the height that complicates it. My other alternative is to hire an electrician/installer to come do it. Any CP'ers dome this recently, or any electricians out there? Just wondering what a ball park cost to have someone come in and do it would be.
Scaffold rentals are like $30 a day or $132 per week from Home Depot per this:
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/too...-12.11071.html

Electricians probably just charge hourly rate. Unless it's some ungodly thing to install, I can't imagine you needing to pay more than 2-3 hours worth of labour (at rates ranging from $35-55 an hour or whatever they're charging these days) plus cost of rental and materials.

I wonder if you can just call around explain the situation (ie: Not an older/injured electrician who doesn't want to climb) then rent and set up the scaffold yourself the day before/day of the appointment date? You could even do the basics of disassembling and pulling down any components to try and save an extra 30-45 minutes if it's a little more complicated.

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- $60 scaffold rental
- $100-200 electrician and assuming you're not paying them to help set up scaffold
- And then cost of materials, replacement light, stuff to transport of scaffold (if required)
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Old 02-01-2020, 01:13 AM   #2502
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Nooooooooooo thank you. Much prefer the older ones.
Stupid question, but is there an actual market for those old 80s furnaces, or are you just a lone odd ball clinging on to the one you have like it's life or death?

My understanding is that those 1980s furnaces are like 60% efficient and newer high efficiency furnaces are like 90%+ or around 50% efficiencies in fuel costs plus more bells and whistles, so I don't get why anyone would prefer to stay with the old style other than upfront cost.

But I have met a few individuals who like you who actually appreciate the 1980s types units and will swap to a newer style only if it's impossible to get an older unit.

I have two of these things in my new home. If someone was crazy enough to make it worth my while by chipping in a few hundred bucks, helping to speed up the removal (thus lowering an install cost) and hauling the damn thing away of their own accord, I would be dumb not to consider it. The scenario is obviously completely unlikely IMO. The utility room is super toasty when both furnaces are on heating the upper floors. This is super different than the HE unit I have in the townhouse I currently live in.

https://www.furnaceprices.ca/region/...naces-calgary/

This says HE furnaces are around $3-6K each (Let's say $5K to be conservative). But I'd probably opt to do a single higher end unit that can do 3 independent zones, output enough for whole home as 2 furnaces and takes up less utility room real estate.

I just blew $40K to get the home ready it for moving in (So much freaking chemical smell!) so I was expecting to stretch any additional work as long as I can and eating the extra couple hundred per month on heating bills.



Another stupid question. If two projects are on the table for a similar price and of the two you can only do one, which makes sense to do first? Furnace replacement, or windows replacement? Both offer efficiencies and utilities savings after they are completed, but does one offer more? Or are they both essentially equal? (Windows do offer an additional aesthetic offerings if done first though which is my thoughts).

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Old 02-01-2020, 09:50 AM   #2503
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Simple question - I have some pigeons that are using the space under my balcony to hang out. What is that anti-bird / anti-squirrel spiky strip you put down called?
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:59 AM   #2504
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Stupid question, but is there an actual market for those old 80s furnaces, or are you just a lone odd ball clinging on to the one you have like it's life or death?

My understanding is that those 1980s furnaces are like 60% efficient and newer high efficiency furnaces are like 90%+ or around 50% efficiencies in fuel costs plus more bells and whistles, so I don't get why anyone would prefer to stay with the old style other than upfront cost.

But I have met a few individuals who like you who actually appreciate the 1980s types units and will swap to a newer style only if it's impossible to get an older unit.

I have two of these things in my new home. If someone was crazy enough to make it worth my while by chipping in a few hundred bucks, helping to speed up the removal (thus lowering an install cost) and hauling the damn thing away of their own accord, I would be dumb not to consider it. The scenario is obviously completely unlikely IMO. The utility room is super toasty when both furnaces are on heating the upper floors. This is super different than the HE unit I have in the townhouse I currently live in.

https://www.furnaceprices.ca/region/...naces-calgary/

This says HE furnaces are around $3-6K each (Let's say $5K to be conservative). But I'd probably opt to do a single higher end unit that can do 3 independent zones, output enough for whole home as 2 furnaces and takes up less utility room real estate.

I just blew $40K to get the home ready it for moving in (So much freaking chemical smell!) so I was expecting to stretch any additional work as long as I can and eating the extra couple hundred per month on heating bills.



Another stupid question. If two projects are on the table for a similar price and of the two you can only do one, which makes sense to do first? Furnace replacement, or windows replacement? Both offer efficiencies and utilities savings after they are completed, but does one offer more? Or are they both essentially equal? (Windows do offer an additional aesthetic offerings if done first though which is my thoughts).
I would always suggest windows or insulation before furnace. Anything you can do to keep conditioned air inside should reduce your overall energy usage.

When there were government rebates for furnace replacement, it made a bit more sense... but now that there isn't anything in that department, it's basically a large capital expense to reduce your operating expenses... The payout period is quite far down the road (if at all).

It's very anecdotal but newer furnaces do have much better design/features, but with every feature comes somewhat of an increased risk of failure. It seems like all of the furnace failures that any coworkers had in my office over the -30 stretch all had high efficiency furnaces, haha.
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Older furnaces theoretically last a long time until they die without many issues, whereas the newer ones don't. I'm riding mine as long as it'll go. "They don't make em like they used to" is true here.

Capital expenses for a furnace will take a long time to return. You'll never cover window replacement. You can reduce your energy usage, but the majority of your bill is admin and delivery fees.
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simple question - i have some pigeons that are using the space under my balcony to hang out. What is that anti-bird / anti-squirrel spiky strip you put down called?
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Older furnaces theoretically last a long time until they die without many issues, whereas the newer ones don't. I'm riding mine as long as it'll go. "They don't make em like they used to" is true here.

Capital expenses for a furnace will take a long time to return. You'll never cover window replacement. You can reduce your energy usage, but the majority of your bill is admin and delivery fees.
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Old 02-01-2020, 08:01 PM   #2508
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I have a high efficient that is approx 15 yrs old. I've lived in the house for 10 yrs and not one has gone by where I haven't had to mess around with something. Intake issues with snow, blower motor filling with water, condensation drain plugging, rebuilt the whole drainage system, circuit board replaced.

My old mid efficient ran way better and i've never had an issue with an older furnace.

Some of my issues shouldn't affect a newer installation, there's better vents now. but honestly the more fancy these things get the more there is to go wrong and they are very sensitive.
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:33 PM   #2509
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Anyone here good with plumbing? Need to raise a closet flange, was never raised after tile was added to the bathroom...

Trying to figure out the best option here.
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:40 PM   #2510
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Not a plumber but I believe you can buy a flange extender to make up the space. A simple bolt on if you are doing it yourself.
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Simple question - I have some pigeons that are using the space under my balcony to hang out. What is that anti-bird / anti-squirrel spiky strip you put down called?
Use lattice?

Otherwise they're literally called bird spikes
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:16 AM   #2512
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Looking for a recommendation on a carpet/flooring place to go to. I had a tenant move out of my basement this past weekend, and the carpet has been annihilated and is essentially not fixable with patching.

I've gone to End of the Roll, and have received a quote from them. But would like to receive a couple other quotes to compare.

Anyone have experience with End of the Roll? have a good experience? or anyone recommend another shop?
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Looking for a recommendation on a carpet/flooring place to go to. I had a tenant move out of my basement this past weekend, and the carpet has been annihilated and is essentially not fixable with patching.

I've gone to End of the Roll, and have received a quote from them. But would like to receive a couple other quotes to compare.

Anyone have experience with End of the Roll? have a good experience? or anyone recommend another shop?
I've used them and they're fine. I've also gotten floors (incl carpet) through Divine. Both were fine to deal with, I'd say End of the Roll is a bit more of a volume operation, and Divine is a bit more "tailored" experience (aka likely you pay for that).

At the end of the day, with any shop it is going to all come down to the price/selection, and more importantly the installer crew you get, and theres no real way to know ahead of time on that one really. Installs are generally all just contracted out to subs
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Stupid question, but is there an actual market for those old 80s furnaces, or are you just a lone odd ball clinging on to the one you have like it's life or death?

Another stupid question. If two projects are on the table for a similar price and of the two you can only do one, which makes sense to do first? Furnace replacement, or windows replacement? Both offer efficiencies and utilities savings after they are completed, but does one offer more? Or are they both essentially equal? (Windows do offer an additional aesthetic offerings if done first though which is my thoughts).
Haha, could easily be an odd ball but I do like my older furnaces. Main reason? There is no computer, no control board, no dedicated air intakes and like 2 moving parts. They are incredibly reliable and inexpensive to fix. Replacing the blower motor cost me $150 and maybe 20 minutes of time.

The older furnaces are indeed less efficient than newer ones but I think it would take quite a number of years for the higher efficiency furnace to finally start paying for itself.

As for your 2nd question, hands down, replace the windows first. Same issue with recovering investment money as a furnace but on top of being more efficient with heat loss, odds are good they are better at repelling water too. Great time to also check the frame of the windows are well insulated with low expansion foam. And yes, curb value may increase as well.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a retaining wall guy? Like a decorative one with landscape rocks/bolders.
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Anyone have any local experience/recommendation on floor to ceiling room dividers?

I'm Looking to split a spare room into a dual purpose clothing room/office, and I'm thinking something along these lines.



Don't really want the thickness of a full wall, nor do I want it to span the entire room. I'm basically trying to hit the sweet spot between an Japanese style wardrobe divider and a full wall.

I've seen similar dividers in office spaces, but wondering if anyone's done something like this in there home and what the cost were.
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Anyone have any local experience/recommendation on floor to ceiling room dividers?

I'm Looking to split a spare room into a dual purpose clothing room/office, and I'm thinking something along these lines.



Don't really want the thickness of a full wall, nor do I want it to span the entire room. I'm basically trying to hit the sweet spot between an Japanese style wardrobe divider and a full wall.

I've seen similar dividers in office spaces, but wondering if anyone's done something like this in there home and what the cost were.

What kind of dimensions are you thinking?
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What kind of dimensions are you thinking?
It’s about 94” ceiling to floor, I’m looking to come about 56” out from the wall.

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Anyone have any local experience/recommendation on floor to ceiling room dividers?

I'm Looking to split a spare room into a dual purpose clothing room/office, and I'm thinking something along these lines.



Don't really want the thickness of a full wall, nor do I want it to span the entire room. I'm basically trying to hit the sweet spot between an Japanese style wardrobe divider and a full wall.

I've seen similar dividers in office spaces, but wondering if anyone's done something like this in there home and what the cost were.
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I can confidently say those girls are much, much handier with tools and lumber than I am.

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