The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[TheGrimm]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

If a person believes any animal doesn't have the capacity to bite or attack or whatever they are stupid.

While I believe sometimes a dog may just be "not right" in the head, I think most cases of attacks the blame falls on the owner. While you can never remove the danger you can most certainly reduce the risk.

I have always played with my dogs in a way they bite/chew on my hand, but in every case (in my life I have had 4 purebreads of different breeds and 4 mutts) when I say ouch or ow while playing they all stopped immediately and started licking my hand. Not once has any of them been aggressive towards another person. Now I am not suggesting my dogs could have never done anything bad or ever will, but I believe if you train them right, treat them right and show them love, they will behave and not lash out.

Just my 2 cents on the issue.

I am also not opposed to people needing a permit for pets, but not necessarily for public safety, but for the pet's safety too.

Nailed it.

[Cowperson]

The unneighbourly neighbours on the hill have a German Shephard girl. It comes down with their kids in the morning and afternoon when the school bus shows up, then races along our fence, angrily harrassing my two Golden Retrievers. My fence keeps them separated but the German Shephard did bite one of my previous female Golden's once when she stuck her head through the fence.

Cue to a few days ago. Our other neighbours have one small dog and are babysitting another small dog. They leave their gate open. One of the little dogs disappears. They walk up the hill looking for the little dog and find it dead, lying in a pool of its own blood in front of the unneighbourly neighbours front door.

By chance, the wife of the unneighbourly neighbour arrives home at that instance and, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, vehemently denies her roaming German Shephard had anything to do with the massacre, saying it must have been a coyote.

She does, however, provide a box to haul the carcass home.

First neighbour calls the police to have it on the record.

Unneighbourly neighbours don't have a fence and their dog roams the countryside. The husband treats it pretty badly and the dog is outside throughout the year, including winter. Some sympathy there but I also throw handfuls of gravel at its head to make it go home.

Stupid, irresponsible people. He shouldn't wonder when the entire neighbourhood rallies together to foil his attempts at subdividing.

Cowperson

[chemgear]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Po...098/story.html


RCMP serious crime investigators are being brought in to probe a woman’s vicious mauling by dogs in Sundre on the weekend.

Mounties are pursuing all avenues while they explore whether the attack by two pit bulls was deliberate.

An RCMP spokesman would not comment on whether the dogs were ordered to attack the victim, who was staying at a friend’s home during the 2 a.m. attack on Saturday

Calgary data from 2003 indicate that certain breeds are overrepresented when it comes to aggressive incidents such as bites, chases and injuries. Nearly two per cent of German Shepherds, five per cent of Rottweilers and their crosses, and 15 per cent of pit bulls had been involved in an incident.


Not sure the details of that last paragraph/stats behind it. Bolded just to include it as part of the thread.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Po...098/story.html


RCMP serious crime investigators are being brought in to probe a woman’s vicious mauling by dogs in Sundre on the weekend.

Mounties are pursuing all avenues while they explore whether the attack by two pit bulls was deliberate.

An RCMP spokesman would not comment on whether the dogs were ordered to attack the victim, who was staying at a friend’s home during the 2 a.m. attack on Saturday

Calgary data from 2003 indicate that certain breeds are overrepresented when it comes to aggressive incidents such as bites, chases and injuries. Nearly two per cent of German Shepherds, five per cent of Rottweilers and their crosses, and 15 per cent of pit bulls had been involved in an incident.


Not sure the details of that last paragraph/stats behind it. Bolded just to include it as part of the thread.

I am curious if an "incident" has to include a person. Unfortunately dog fights happen and more often than not it seems to be pit-bulls and rottweilers involved in that. If an incident doesn't need to include a person I wonder how much dog fighting rings affect those numbers

[Fire Element]

Dogs are not generally born bad, it's human influence that makes them what they become. Unfortunatly its far too easy for irresponsible people to become dog owners. Those who have had bad experiences with dogs are rarely cured of that phobia.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

The unneighbourly neighbours on the hill have a German Shephard girl. It comes down with their kids in the morning and afternoon when the school bus shows up, then races along our fence, angrily harrassing my two Golden Retrievers. My fence keeps them separated but the German Shephard did bite one of my previous female Golden's once when she stuck her head through the fence.

Cue to a few days ago. Our other neighbours have one small dog and are babysitting another small dog. They leave their gate open. One of the little dogs disappears. They walk up the hill looking for the little dog and find it dead, lying in a pool of its own blood in front of the unneighbourly neighbours front door.

By chance, the wife of the unneighbourly neighbour arrives home at that instance and, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, vehemently denies her roaming German Shephard had anything to do with the massacre, saying it must have been a coyote.

She does, however, provide a box to haul the carcass home.

First neighbour calls the police to have it on the record.

Unneighbourly neighbours don't have a fence and their dog roams the countryside. The husband treats it pretty badly and the dog is outside throughout the year, including winter. Some sympathy there but I also throw handfuls of gravel at its head to make it go home.

Stupid, irresponsible people. He shouldn't wonder when the entire neighbourhood rallies together to foil his attempts at subdividing.

Cowperson

If that was my dog the Shepard killed it would be lying in a ditch with a .22 between the eyes.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

If that was my dog the Shepard killed it would be lying in a ditch with a .22 between the eyes.

Seriously? Shouldn't you be directing your anger at the irresponsible dog owner and not the mutt?

I'd think someone with a dog would understand that. If your dog ever got loose and hurt another animal I'm sure you wouldn't want another person to take out their frustration on your dog, would you?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Fire Element

Dogs are not generally born bad, it's human influence that makes them what they become. Unfortunatly its far too easy for irresponsible people to become dog owners. Those who have had bad experiences with dogs are rarely cured of that phobia.

Actually, the opposite is true. The nature of dogs is evident when they're untrained. It takes a responsible human that knows how to train a dog to make them into something that can borderline coexist in our society. Left to their own devices, they'd form packs and hunt smaller animals for food while crapping, howling and barking all over the city.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Iginla

Seriously? Shouldn't you be directing your anger at the irresponsible dog owner and not the mutt?

I'd think someone with a dog would understand that. If your dog ever got loose and hurt another animal I'm sure you wouldn't want another person to take out their frustration on your dog, would you?

A loose dog in the country harrassing horses and cows or anything else can definitely find itself in a shallow, unmarked grave with a .22 bullet between its eyes. Farmers/ranchers, I think, have that right.

Another wandering neightbour dog - a big malmute - a few years ago crawled home with an arrow in it during bow hunting season, then died.

I have a fence around my four acres. Beautiful place to be a dog. But they can't wander. They're safe as safe goes. Coyotes don't come in for some reason. But we've had bears, moose, stampeding elk, porcupine and badgers in the yard before. And cougars pass by.

A neighbour had a blind collie that used to wander over to our place, bumping its head off fenceposts and, I presume, counting paces. Very cute.

Nevertheless, a dog wandering off its property in the country is definitely in peril from a variety of things, including angry humans.

Cowperson

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Actually, the opposite is true. The nature of dogs is evident when they're untrained. It takes a responsible human that knows how to train a dog to make them into something that can borderline coexist in our society. Left to their own devices, they'd form packs and hunt smaller animals for food while crapping, howling and barking all over the city.

Just like teenagers, minus the crapping.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Actually, the opposite is true. The nature of dogs is evident when they're untrained. It takes a responsible human that knows how to train a dog to make them into something that can borderline coexist in our society. Left to their own devices, they'd form packs and hunt smaller animals for food while crapping, howling and barking all over the city.

your hate for dogs is beyond a bias, I have to wonder if one stole your girl or something

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

your hate for dogs is beyond a bias, I have to wonder if one stole your girl or something

So debate his arguments then. Turning it personal accomplishes nothing.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

your hate for dogs is beyond a bias, I have to wonder if one stole your girl or something

I think Sliver might be Asian...

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=290

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I think Sliver might be DESS...

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...highlight=Dogs

FYP

is that how the game is played?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So debate his arguments then. Turning it personal accomplishes nothing.

how can you debate blind hatred? it simply is not possible. to have a debate it requires a reasonable perspective. which on this topic sliver does not.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

how can you debate blind hatred? it simply is not possible. to have a debate it requires a reasonable perspective. which on this topic sliver does not.

Blind Hatred? That’s a bit of a hyperbole. I think Sliver is just in the very unpopular position of not liking dogs. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with not liking dogs, it’s not a crime, it doesn’t hurt anyone else, but people simply cannot understand it because they love their pets. So they do what people do when they don’t understand something, they get defensive and sensitive, and resort to personal attacks (yourself being included in this group). Sliver has been very reasonable in defending an unpopular position.

[Rerun]

I don't like cats. ... its a dog thing.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

how can you debate blind hatred? it simply is not possible. to have a debate it requires a reasonable perspective. which on this topic sliver does not.

I think he has done a reasonable job of explaining his point of view. It seems to me he is willing to have a debate about it.

[undercoverbrother]

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/08/2...k-on-calgarian

Mounties say a woman ordered her pitbulls to attack a Calgarian who was nearly killed by the canines in Sundre, a town northwest of the city, last weekend.
The victim suffered critical injuries to her face and arms and is now listed in stable condition. One of the dogs was shot at the scene, the other was restrained.
An aggravated assault charge has been laid against Rita Phillip after the 26-year-old woman was critically injured in the attack in a mobile home.
Phillip, 57, who fled the scene, is facing a charge of aggravated assault.

[SportsJunky]

Jeezus...