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Old 05-12-2023, 07:24 PM   #41
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Health care costs due to obesity are going to be worse than astronomical.
Just in to say, no exercise isn’t just bad because if obesity.
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Old 05-12-2023, 07:27 PM   #42
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My sense of it is don't get too used to the idea of letting the Government telling you how to live your life. IMO mandates should only be used in very exceptional cases of National Emergency. We live in a democracy, and whether we take 10 or 10,000 steps a day is nobody's business.

Also it seems to me there are too many people these days trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions. Common sense seems to be in very short supply.

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Oh man. I remember going through the various exercises trying to get one of these. You were awarded the one based on your worst performance. You could get gold in almost everything but if you didn't hit your target time/count on one, you would drop. It happened to me. I ended up with the participation medal because I didn't do enough sit ups in the allotted time. It was the best looking one anyhow.
Ok I'm more impressed that you remember the details of the program's details. When did they stop this, 40 yrs ago?!
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My sense of it is don't get too used to the idea of letting the Government telling you how to live your life. IMO mandates should only be used in very exceptional cases of National Emergency. We live in a democracy, and whether we take 10 or 10,000 steps a day is nobody's business.

Also it seems to me there are too many people these days trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions. Common sense seems to be in very short supply.
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My sense of it is don't get too used to the idea of letting the Government telling you how to live your life. IMO mandates should only be used in very exceptional cases of National Emergency. We live in a democracy, and whether we take 10 or 10,000 steps a day is nobody's business.

Also it seems to me there are too many people these days trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions. Common sense seems to be in very short supply.
Sure but if you want to use shared resources you should at least partially pay when your behaviour impacts the system disproportionality more. So I agree that a mandate wouldn’t be appropriate but Sun Taxes based on the cost impact of those poor choices are reasonable.
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Sure but if you want to use shared resources you should at least partially pay when your behaviour impacts the system disproportionality more. So I agree that a mandate wouldn’t be appropriate but Sun Taxes based on the cost impact of those poor choices are reasonable.
What about all the people whose obesity is not caused by lack of exercise?

Other factors that cause obesity include:

1. Poor eating habits

2. Challenging community environment

3. Genetics

4. Family history

5. Medications

6. External stressors

7. Etc.
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What about all the people whose obesity is not caused by lack of exercise?

Other factors that cause obesity include:

1. Poor eating habits

2. Challenging community environment

3. Genetics

4. Family history

5. Medications

6. External stressors

7. Etc.
I think taxing behaviour rather than outcome or predisposition makes sense.
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If exercise was mandated people would be marching in the streets!
Sounds like great exercise to me.
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Isn't obesity costing society billions?
Healthy people cost more. Obese people have a higher yearly cost but they die quicker and therefore require less healthcare spent on them than say a 90 year old person who lived a healthy lifestyle but now needs complete care givers for the next decade.
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I think taxing behaviour rather than outcome or predisposition makes sense.
As I see it, there are three main things contributing to good health:

1. Eating right

2. Sleeping well

3. Exercising

Maybe we should tax people who don't eat right or don't get enough sleep
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Can’t outrun your fork. If most people ate an appropriate amount then there would be no need for mandated exercise.
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As I see it, there are three main things contributing to good health:

1. Eating right

2. Sleeping well

3. Exercising

Maybe we should tax people who don't eat right or don't get enough sleep
That’s a good point.
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As I see it, there are three main things contributing to good health:

1. Eating right

2. Sleeping well

3. Exercising

Maybe we should tax people who don't eat right or don't get enough sleep
Number 1 is really easy to tax and is non invasive from a privacy perspective so that is where I end up as the easy 1st step
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Number 1 is really easy to tax and is non invasive from a privacy perspective so that is where I end up as the easy 1st step
Except it disproportionately affects poor people. Tough thing to fix without changing underlying habits and bad nutritional education.
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Oh man. I remember going through the various exercises trying to get one of these. You were awarded the one based on your worst performance. You could get gold in almost everything but if you didn't hit your target time/count on one, you would drop. It happened to me. I ended up with the participation medal because I didn't do enough sit ups in the allotted time. It was the best looking one anyhow.

That was me. Gold/Excellence in everything, but I couldn't hit the bronze time in the Endurance run, so I was a 'participant' - terribly demotivating.
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That was me. Gold/Excellence in everything, but I couldn't hit the bronze time in the Endurance run, so I was a 'participant' - terribly demotivating.
I remember in Grade 4 when if you were 10 you had to run 8 laps of the school field in under 8 minutes. If you were 9 you only had to run 4. I think we did it in May and I remember like 5 kids blatantly lying and saying they were still 9 when I'd been to their birthday party. There was me and two other fools who admitted to turning 10. The whole class enjoyed watching us struggle to get the extra 4 laps in. I did hit 7:57 to get the Excellent which I still remember to this day. By grade 7...the gravy caught up with me and I was Eric Cartman.
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Oh man. I remember going through the various exercises trying to get one of these. You were awarded the one based on your worst performance. You could get gold in almost everything but if you didn't hit your target time/count on one, you would drop. It happened to me. I ended up with the participation medal because I didn't do enough sit ups in the allotted time. It was the best looking one anyhow.
Lol. In grade six I was off the charts on every category... But the long distance run, and it forever made me hate long distance running.... Probably the opposite effect of what they were looking for.
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I would be in favour of schools at the elementary level starting the day with some sort of exercise.
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