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Old 10-13-2020, 12:54 PM   #6281
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I always like a little snark, can't say I ever really cared about decorum in general. Cable news says nothing of value in a nice way, at least those two talk about substantive issues.
They have a habit of presenting their topics with a distinct "see, we told you" or "we knew this a lonnnnng time ago, but we are just telling you peons again how right we were and we can't believe you would have ever thought otherwise" kind of attitude.

This is just the way it comes off to me.
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They have a habit of presenting their topics with a distinct "see, we told you" or "we knew this a lonnnnng time ago, but we are just telling you peons again how right we were and we can't believe you would have ever thought otherwise" kind of attitude.

This is just the way it comes off to me.
I see most of that as rubbing the rest of the media's nose in their canned talking points. I don't think it's directed at the viewer, but the groupthink that happens in cable news media.
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I see most of that as rubbing the rest of the media's nose in their canned talking points. I don't think it's directed at the viewer, but the groupthink that happens in cable news media.
Maybe Wastedyouth is Wolf Blitzer?
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I don't understand how you guys like her so much. Even when she is saying things I agree with, I can't take the snarky/sarcastic/patronizing tone.
The Hill in general is patronizing and obnoxious in a lot of their content. Not surprising based on their history and ownership.
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The Hill in general is patronizing and obnoxious in a lot of their content. Not surprising based on their history and ownership.
Oh? How so? This seems to show it as fairly balanced, but I don't know a lot of the background.

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Oh? How so? This seems to show it as fairly balanced, but I don't know a lot of the background.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/
You can be patronizing and obnoxious while still being unbiased. They're not really related. One is a delivery and the other is a leaning.
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I enjoyed their commentary a lot more during the primaries. They've become tougher to watch once primaries ended.
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Oh? How so? This seems to show it as fairly balanced, but I don't know a lot of the background.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/
The Hill was founded by former New York Law Journal publisher Jerry Finkelstein. It was a fairly reputable publication in DC circles until Finklestein's passing in 2010 or 2011 IIRC. He willed the publication to his kid "Jimmy" and the pub went a different direction. Jimmy Finklestein is a bit of political hack and has gone full Roger Ailes on multiple occasions, instructing his journalists how to cover stories and the spin they would put on them. He's gone full tabloid at other times, cutting his journalists right out of the loop and publishing content not suitable for the bottom of a birdcage including an expose on how the Democrats colluded with the Ukrainians to interfere in the 2016 election rather than Russians. This was content was provided by Rudy Guliani to John Solomon. The Hill is really a bit of a #### show and it has ben rumored to be on the market for the past couple of years. No one appears willing to touch it as its reputation has turned tabloid to toxic in DC circles.
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In fairness it’s way worse in Canada. The CBC has less integrity then any of the above. Outside of Evan Soloman and a couple of the writers from the National Post I can’t think of a single reporter that is ever critical of the government.

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In fairness it’s way worse in Canada. The CBC has less integrity then any of the above. Outside of Evan Soloman and a couple of the writers from the National Post I can’t think of a single reporter that is ever critical of the government.
It's even worse in that CBC is a national broadcaster with a mandate to provide a balanced views of Canadians. CNN is as biased as it gets, as does Fox News but they are private news networks.
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Pelosi and Wolf are getting into it on CNN pretty good right now about this stimulus bill issue.
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In fairness it’s way worse in Canada. The CBC has less integrity then any of the above. Outside of Evan Soloman and a couple of the writers from the National Post I can’t think of a single reporter that is ever critical of the government.
They are there to report news, not criticize one party or another. That's what opinion pieces are for.
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CNN's been asking sort of tougher questions lately?

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They are there to report news, not criticize one party or another. That's what opinion pieces are for.
Is anyone asking the CBC to criticize a specific party? The real issue at hand in Canada is the slant in coverage and what actually falls into the category of "news".
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Weird, everytime I tune into CBC, I see multiple stories and investigations and news on the Liberals, Conservatives and the NDP.

Maybe people are just upset because they want CBC to go full CNN or Fox News and just be hypercritical of Trudeau (which criticism isnt their job, the news is) or the opposition. CBC isn't in the habit of airing hit pieces. Are they more left leaning than centrist? Probably. But Canada is generally more left leaning than centrist anyways.

I, for one, am very proud of the fact that, internationally, CBC is well known for honest, genuine and factual reporting.
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Never mind. misread that..

But i did watch it. Kind of awkward because of the delay. Blitz went all out when he said his neighbors are begging for money on the street... haha
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Weird, everytime I tune into CBC, I see multiple stories and investigations and news on the Liberals, Conservatives and the NDP.

Maybe people are just upset because they want CBC to go full CNN or Fox News and just be hypercritical of Trudeau (which criticism isnt their job, the news is) or the opposition. CBC isn't in the habit of airing hit pieces. Are they more left leaning than centrist? Probably. But Canada is generally more left leaning than centrist anyways.

I, for one, am very proud of the fact that, internationally, CBC is well known for honest, genuine and factual reporting.
I called out a few of these rightwingers in the Cdn Politics thread for their outright lies about the CBC. Of course none of them watch it and are just old and grumpy
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Weird, everytime I tune into CBC, I see multiple stories and investigations and news on the Liberals, Conservatives and the NDP.

Maybe people are just upset because they want CBC to go full CNN or Fox News and just be hypercritical of Trudeau (which criticism isnt their job, the news is) or the opposition. CBC isn't in the habit of airing hit pieces. Are they more left leaning than centrist? Probably. But Canada is generally more left leaning than centrist anyways.

I, for one, am very proud of the fact that, internationally, CBC is well known for honest, genuine and factual reporting.
On their political panel programs, they always invite someone from each party.
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