07-01-2019, 05:10 PM
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#1121
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
So, whats next? Kadri is gone.
Anyone else the Flames can go after for second line depth?
Or are we really planning on going with a logjam on defense? Not good planning at all.
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Turris for Neal.
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07-01-2019, 05:10 PM
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#1122
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Well I’m starting to think we’re going into training camp with mostly the same squad.
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07-01-2019, 05:11 PM
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#1123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
At this point we are better off at having Lindholm start taking the FO draws as the 2C and then find a winger at a cheap price. Not very many center options right now.
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Wingers drying up fast too. Not much out there. Mojo, aaaand that's all I'd really want.
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07-01-2019, 05:14 PM
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#1124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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07-01-2019, 05:15 PM
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#1125
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First Line Centre
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At this point, I want the Flames to stand pat, trade for more cap space, and sign their RFAs.
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07-01-2019, 05:17 PM
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#1126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Well I’m starting to think we’re going into training camp with mostly the same squad.
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In that case, I am disappointed that the team and players identified a need to be fixed and the GM did absolutely nothing to fix it.
This whole "growing internally" BS does not mean anything. I would bet anything that guys like Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Jankowski are not going to come back next season all of a sudden being tough to play against. They needed to bring in players who give a #### and have another gear..even Frolik recognized that.
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07-01-2019, 05:20 PM
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#1127
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
In that case, I am disappointed that the team and players identified a need to be fixed and the GM did absolutely nothing to fix it.
This whole "growing internally" BS does not mean anything. I would bet anything that guys like Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Jankowski are not going to come back next season all of a sudden being tough to play against. They needed to bring in players who give a #### and have another gear..even Frolik recognized that.
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Please expand on that first paragraph, I heard nothing about this.
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07-01-2019, 05:23 PM
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#1128
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Franchise Player
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At this point we need to hope Lindholm can be moved to 2C and perform there, as well as have some wingers step up their games.
Neal needs to improve
Czarnik needs to be more consistent
Bennett needs to find his offense
Mangiapane needs to take the next step
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07-01-2019, 05:25 PM
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#1129
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
At this point we need to hope Lindholm can be moved to 2C and perform there, as well as have some wingers step up their games.
Neal needs to improve
Czarnik needs to be more consistent
Bennett needs to find his offense
Mangiapane needs to take the next step
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Dube can also help the big club out this year.
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07-01-2019, 05:26 PM
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#1130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Please expand on that first paragraph, I heard nothing about this.
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The identified need is for the Flames to be tougher to play against. I know that Frolik said the Flames need to get bigger and meaner. IIRC similar comments came from the Flames management.
Losing Hathaway does not help either.
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07-01-2019, 05:29 PM
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#1131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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What team could use a Dman still??
I’m holding out hope for a hometown discount Ferland and 1 year deal for Justin Williams.
Brodie for picks
Frolik for picks
Buyout or Demote Stone
Ferland 4 x 3.5
Williams 1 x 2 + 2 in bonuses
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Williams
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Mangiapane - Dube - Ryan
Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Yelesin
Kylington
Rittich
Talbot
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07-01-2019, 05:31 PM
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#1132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Would there be any cap savings if the Flames send Stone to the minors?
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07-01-2019, 05:32 PM
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#1133
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
What team could use a Dman still??
I’m holding out hope for a hometown discount Ferland and 1 year deal for Justin Williams.
Brodie for picks
Frolik for picks
Buyout or Demote Stone
Ferland 4 x 3.5
Williams 1 x 2 + 2 in bonuses
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Williams
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Mangiapane - Dube - Ryan
Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Yelesin
Kylington
Rittich
Talbot
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I would rather just drop Stone and stay with the current roster. I also dont see a lot of scenarios where Williams comes here for his retirement season..
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07-01-2019, 05:32 PM
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#1134
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Franchise Player
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If Kadri did block a trade to Calgary that sucks. I think he would have fit in well here. Unless some other trades happen in the summer I don't think the Flames will be much different next year.
Tre is handcuffed by Neal and Tkachuk though, so not really surprising. Are there any decent rws we can get for Brodie.
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07-01-2019, 05:33 PM
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#1135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
What team could use a Dman still??
I’m holding out hope for a hometown discount Ferland and 1 year deal for Justin Williams.
Brodie for picks
Frolik for picks
Buyout or Demote Stone
Ferland 4 x 3.5
Williams 1 x 2 + 2 in bonuses
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Williams
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Mangiapane - Dube - Ryan
Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Yelesin
Kylington
Rittich
Talbot
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I would rater have Dzingel but I can live with Ferland (as long as he isnt injured).
I would switch Neal and Mangiapane.. also not sure why you have Dube playing center as a rookie instead of Ryan who did very well last season in that role.
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07-01-2019, 05:33 PM
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#1136
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I think everyone needs to chill. Seems like some major overreactions to not landing Kadri or making a franchise altering deal today. They didn't need that. Moves to keep cap complaint and signing RFAs will come. Adding grit will come later. Heck even adding scoring with guys that didn't get signed today could come as soon as tomorrow.
Edit - Probably the wrong thread but screw it. Canada Day. Forgiveness is truly Canadian.
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07-01-2019, 05:34 PM
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#1137
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Would there be any cap savings if the Flames send Stone to the minors?
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https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#buried
"The cap hit relief is therefore equal to the minimum salary of the respective season + $375,000:
2019-20: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000"
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07-01-2019, 05:35 PM
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#1138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
At this point we need to hope Lindholm can be moved to 2C and perform there, as well as have some wingers step up their games.
Neal needs to improve
Czarnik needs to be more consistent
Bennett needs to find his offense
Mangiapane needs to take the next step
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Jankowski needs to take a big step forward too. If we do end up going into next season with a third line of Bennett - Jankowski - Neal again, all 3 need to pull their heads out of their asses
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07-01-2019, 05:36 PM
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#1139
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I would rater have Dzingel but I can live with Ferland (as long as he isnt injured).
I would switch Neal and Mangiapane.. also not sure why you have Dube playing center as a rookie instead of Ryan who did very well last season in that role.
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Have Ryan there on the line splitting duties/showing Dube the ropes as Center. They can share the duties but I should have been clearer on that - kinda like Monahan/Lindholm last year.
Edit - totally forgot about Jankowski too
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07-01-2019, 05:37 PM
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#1140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
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Thanks for providing that!
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