Neo-Nazi networks exposed across US military

[Cole436]

Over the past two months investigations published by Unicorn Riot and the Huffington Post have exposed eleven members of Identity Evropa, an American neo-Nazi organization, operating freely within the US military. The latest exposure reveals the extrent to which reactionary forces are allowed to cultivate, fester and recruit within the United States armed forces across all branches and ranks.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../nzws-m04.html

Hail Hydra

[rubecube]

Somehow I just know this is the fault of academic elites and the regressive left.

[burn_this_city]

11 out of 1.3M people in the US military, I would expect the number to be much higher. Maybe military training actually inoculates most people from a lot of that nonsense.

[CaptainCrunch]

This seems pretty sensationalist reporting to me, again they identified 11 members out of 1.3 million.


I would expect that if you looked at the Canadian Forces you would probably find people that aspire to the same thing, same with any military in the world.


Frankly you could look at the US Chamber of Commerce, Boy Scouts of America, Mary Kay Cosmetics, the Police, FBI, of the German Sheppard Breeders club and looked hard enough you could find a small group of people that are racist, members of undesirable groups etc.


If the article showed proof of a growing movement, ie last year they successfully grew their ranks in the military by 100 people, I would say that's different.


Look you have a organization that recruits and probably attracts more often or not poor white kids from the South, you're going to scoop up your share of people that are from racist organizations.



I'm not saying that the article is much to do about nothing, its not however at the same time a site called the World Socialist Website sensationalizing a investigation that exposed a small number of people while throwing in flowery rhetoric about the imperialist American Army and Gestapo border guards shouldn't be surprising.

[IrishSpring2013]

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[JonDuke]

This reminds me...
For some reason, I still get an annual "Happy Birthday" email, on my actual bday, from a white nationalist website called StormFront. I never signed up for anything there and Ive been receiving the emails for a good 15-20 years now. I should probably try to remove myself from that before I'm put on some sort of list.
/random thought that contributes nothing to this thread.

[MelBridgeman]

Huffpost lol


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[zamler]

Originally Posted by Cole436

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../nzws-m04.html

Hail Hydra

They have some nice articles on that site this one is especially good.

To halt climate change, capitalism must be abolished

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

This seems pretty sensationalist reporting to me, again they identified 11 members out of 1.3 million.


I would expect that if you looked at the Canadian Forces you would probably find people that aspire to the same thing, same with any military in the world.


Frankly you could look at the US Chamber of Commerce, Boy Scouts of America, Mary Kay Cosmetics, the Police, FBI, of the German Sheppard Breeders club and looked hard enough you could find a small group of people that are racist, members of undesirable groups etc.


If the article showed proof of a growing movement, ie last year they successfully grew their ranks in the military by 100 people, I would say that's different.


Look you have a organization that recruits and probably attracts more often or not poor white kids from the South, you're going to scoop up your share of people that are from racist organizations.



I'm not saying that the article is much to do about nothing, its not however at the same time a site called the World Socialist Website sensationalizing a investigation that exposed a small number of people while throwing in flowery rhetoric about the imperialist American Army and Gestapo border guards shouldn't be surprising.

It’s troubling to find factions like this in the military, but I would bet that it’s just as troubling, or more so, the ratio of people in the general population that holds similar beliefs.

The military is just another subsection of society as a whole. It’s probably representative of society at the very least. Their biz is just out in the open and ready for people to jump on. I hope they do more to stamp this sort of stuff out though, so it’s good that it is being exposed.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

This reminds me...
For some reason, I still get an annual "Happy Birthday" email, on my actual bday, from a white nationalist website called StormFront. I never signed up for anything there and Ive been receiving the emails for a good 15-20 years now. I should probably try to remove myself from that before I'm put on some sort of list.
/random thought that contributes nothing to this thread.

Umm Stormfront is the grand daddy of the White Nationalist movement, how would you get on that mailing list?

[Charsiu]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Umm Stormfront is the grand daddy of the White Nationalist movement, how would you get on that mailing list?

Maybe they think he's related to David Duke? Username kind of checks out.

[zamler]

I will admit I was thinking the same thing.

[corporatejay]

Same. It's probably a David Duke thing.

[Itse]

I do think a whole US military unit posing in front of an SS flag is extremely troublesome, even if it's just a ten man sniper squad.

It says there's either such a widespread support of fascist ideals that a small unit can randomly end up with only fascists or people who accept it, or that some units only select white supremacists.

White supremacists are political radicals. Open political radicalism in the military is always extremely dangerous.

[Matata]

The US military is one of the most murderous and oppressive organizations in human history.

* sips tea calmly*

With 11 white supremacist in it!

*spits out tea in disgust*

[icecube]

Originally Posted by Matata

The US military is one of the most murderous and oppressive organizations in human history.

* sips tea calmly*

With 11 white supremacist in it!

*spits out tea in disgust*

Yeah, I'm sure there is only 11.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by icecube

Yeah, I'm sure there is only 11.

This headline was saying that it 700,000 text messages they found 11 people that were in the military.

Then they made a big headline not supported by the research.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Itse

I do think a whole US military unit posing in front of an SS flag is extremely troublesome, even if it's just a ten man sniper squad.

It says there's either such a widespread support of fascist ideals that a small unit can randomly end up with only fascists or people who accept it, or that some units only select white supremacists.

White supremacists are political radicals. Open political radicalism in the military is always extremely dangerous.

Yeah I think it's safe to say there are more than 11 members out of 1.3 million that hold and act on criminal intentions.

Stabbing a defenseless teenage captive to death. Picking off a school-age girl and an old man from a sniper’s roost. Indiscriminately spraying neighborhoods with rockets and machine-gun fire.

Navy SEAL commandos from Team 7’s Alpha Platoon said they had seen their highly decorated platoon chief commit shocking acts in Iraq. And they had spoken up, repeatedly. But their frustration grew as months passed and they saw no sign of official action.

A week later, records show, Chief Gallagher texted a picture of the dead captive to a fellow SEAL in California, saying, “Good story behind this, got him with my hunting knife.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/u...es-of-war.html

On the day of the massacre, Abeer's father Qassim was enjoying time with his family, while his sons were at school.[12] In broad daylight, the five U.S. soldiers walked to the house, not wearing their uniforms, but wearing army-issue long underwear to look like "ninjas",[9] and separated 14 year-old Abeer and her family into two different rooms. Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman was responsible for grabbing Abeer's 6 year-old sister who was outside the house with her father, and bringing her inside the house.[13] Green then broke Abeer's mother's arms (likely evidence of a struggle that resulted when she heard her daughter being raped in the other room) and murdered her parents and 6 year-old younger sister, while two other soldiers, Sgt. Paul Cortez and Spc. James Barker, raped Abeer.[14] Barker wrote that Cortez pushed Abeer to the floor, lifted her dress, and tore off her underwear while she struggled. According to Cortez, Abeer “kept squirming and trying to keep her legs closed and saying stuff in Arabic,” as he and Barker took turns holding her down and raping her.[15] Cortez testified that Abeer heard the gunshots in the room in which her parents and little sister were being held, causing her to scream and cry even more as she was being violently raped by the men. Green then emerged from the room saying "I just killed them, all are dead".[16] He, who later said the crime was "awesome",[17] then raped Abeer and shot her in the head several times. After the rape and murders, Barker poured petrol on and the soldiers set fire to the lower part of Abeer's body, from her stomach down to her feet. Barker testified that the soldiers gave Spielman their bloodied clothes to burn and that he threw the AK-47 used to murder the family in a canal. They left to "celebrate" their rapes of Abeer and massacre of the family with a meal of chicken wings.[18] Meanwhile, the fire from Abeer's body eventually spread to the rest of the room, and the smoke alerted neighbors, who were among the first to discover the scene.[2] One recalled "The poor girl, she was so beautiful. She lay there, one leg was stretched and the other bent and her dress was lifted up to her neck."[10] They ran to tell Abu Firas Janabi, Abeer's uncle, that the farmhouse was on fire and that dead bodies could be seen inside the burning building. Janabi and his wife rushed to the farmhouse and doused some of the flames to get inside. Upon witnessing the scene inside, Janabi went to a checkpoint guarded by Iraqi soldiers to report the crime. Abeer's 9- and 11-year-old younger brothers, Ahmed and Mohammed, returned from school that afternoon to find smoke billowing from the windows. After going to their uncle's home, they returned to the house only to be traumatized, finding their father shot in the head, mother shot in the chest, 6-year-old sister Hadeel shot in the face, and 14-year-old sister Abeer's remains burning.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud...e_and_killings

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It’s troubling to find factions like this in the military, but I would bet that it’s just as troubling, or more so, the ratio of people in the general population that holds similar beliefs.

The military is just another subsection of society as a whole. It’s probably representative of society at the very least. Their biz is just out in the open and ready for people to jump on. I hope they do more to stamp this sort of stuff out though, so it’s good that it is being exposed.

This guy gets it.

Military is a cross section of society, good and bad, just a cross section of society.

These types of views shouldn't be accepted or ignored in the military just as they shouldn't be in society as a whole.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

This guy gets it.

Military is a cross section of society, good and bad, just a cross section of society.

These types of views shouldn't be accepted or ignored in the military just as they shouldn't be in society as a whole.

It's not JUST a cross section of society. Authoritarian and far-right views are always over represented in armies. If those views grow popular within the general population, you probably want to specifically weed out some of the worst cases of that type or you'll end up in trouble.

Which the US army hasn't been doing.