08-27-2020, 11:48 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I wish I made that, only time I ever got close to that was working up north with my overtime wage 8 years ago.
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08-27-2020, 12:39 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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FWIW, the dataset includes contractors, employee bonuses, and other items... whatever is reported on T4s. It would be really interesting to see what percentile this average falls into.
Although $40.60 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things when you factor in that it works out to around $84k per year, which doesn't seem out of line for a province with a large skilled workforce (trades and white collar). We also have a larger proportion of northern jobs than other provinces, which commands a wage premium (e.g. northern living allowance)
I'm with y'all. If anything, this shows that Canadians are being underpaid. In like for like skilled labour jobs, Americans make more $$$
Last edited by boogerz; 08-27-2020 at 12:41 PM.
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08-27-2020, 12:43 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I never trust things like average wage.
There are some jobs while not necessarily unique are more prevalent in Alberta and might not be done in other provinces.
I'd like to see more of a breakdown of an average based on common jobs.
It would also be interesting to compare private and public sector total compensation.
But just throwing out one number to cover all makes little to no sense for me.
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If you click the link you can see by sector. This would allow you to filter out energy sector jobs which are $80-$100 per hour.
Yhe reaction to people seeing pipeline and energy jobs being worth so much should be how do we expand that sector in our province
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08-27-2020, 01:10 PM
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#24
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Originally Posted by driveway
How close did you come to the Province average last year?
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I beat it, by about $12/hr, but that being said I am working 55/60 hr work weeks.
I guess i need to stop complaining about my job.
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08-27-2020, 01:30 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by boogerz
FWIW, the dataset includes contractors, employee bonuses, and other items... whatever is reported on T4s. It would be really interesting to see what percentile this average falls into.
Although $40.60 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things when you factor in that it works out to around $84k per year, which doesn't seem out of line for a province with a large skilled workforce (trades and white collar). We also have a larger proportion of northern jobs than other provinces, which commands a wage premium (e.g. northern living allowance)
I'm with y'all. If anything, this shows that Canadians are being underpaid. In like for like skilled labour jobs, Americans make more $$$
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I don't have the stats, but I would imagine that underpayment looks even worse through the lense of forex and purchasing power.
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08-27-2020, 01:51 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by you&me
I don't have the stats, but I would imagine that underpayment looks even worse through the lense of forex and purchasing power.
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It probably brightens up a bit when you factor in health insurance costs.
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08-27-2020, 01:58 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
It probably brightens up a bit when you factor in health insurance costs.
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Depends where you are on the income ladder
For skilled labour above median income. The lower taxation in high tax brackets makes up for heath care costs for young healthy people. Education, if you can get in a good public school district is cheap but if you need to send kids to private school it starts to add up.
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08-27-2020, 02:20 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GGG
Depends where you are on the income ladder
For skilled labour above median income. The lower taxation in high tax brackets makes up for heath care costs for young healthy people. Education, if you can get in a good public school district is cheap but if you need to send kids to private school it starts to add up.
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So maybe, maybe not? Lower taxation only makes up for the cost of healthcare if the difference in taxation is higher than the combined costs of health insurance, co-pays and other deductibles. Education is cheap if you can get into a good public school district, but that’s a pretty big if in a lot of parts of the states.
Alberta is lucky to have the wealth it does, we really need to quit pretending like someone else always has it better whenever someone points out that overall people are still doing quite well here.
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08-27-2020, 02:29 PM
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The average numbers are skewed by the high amount of millionaires per capita.
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08-27-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The average numbers are skewed by the high amount of millionaires per capita.
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Sorry. I am not a millionaire.
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08-27-2020, 02:54 PM
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How does this take into account a specialty trade or consultant that makes $150/hr, but only bills out 700 hours? Does the survey take them at $150 or (150 x 700)/ (52weeksx40hrs) = $50.40?
I know some workers who only bill out 1/3 of their working hours, the rest is BD etc. (Stats Can link wouldn't load for me) Just wondering how the data accounted for that?
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08-27-2020, 03:24 PM
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The median is probably closer to $50,000 a year.
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08-27-2020, 08:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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That's after tax income, so it would be a bit higher for comparison.
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08-27-2020, 09:08 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by #-3
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Those median numbers include part time workers which would have lower annual but higher hourly so not quite a direct comparable.
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08-31-2020, 02:28 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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Anybody know what the average wage is in Calgary? That would take fort mac out of the equation and give a bit of a better reference.
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08-31-2020, 03:00 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stampsx2
Anybody know what the average wage is in Calgary? That would take fort mac out of the equation and give a bit of a better reference.
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4 years ago:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...west-1.4162138
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Wood Buffalo-Cold Lake topped the list, where the average full-time wage was $36.50 per hour, says the agency's Wages by Occupation, 2016 report, which was released Thursday.
Calgary is in the fourth spot with an average wage of $32.60 — behind Nunavut at $35.95 and the Northwest Territories at $34.20.
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