Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Muta

The UCP are corporate socialists. Giving money and tax breaks to O/G instead of mandating they sort our their own ####. Arena funding will likely be next, too.

Conservatives actually love socialism, as long as it's corporate. Otherwise, it's the worst thing ever.

Even non-corporate, because the more the government gives to the people, the more companies can withhold. If the government is giving rebates for WFH equipment and office setup, that’s one less thing the company has to provide.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I kind of like this fickle Calgary strategy. In past, the Cons would take it for granted, clash and talk down to our local leaders. The NDP only really cared about Edmonton

Both parties will be one upping each other to get our votes. May see a new arena because of it.

Kinda feels good.

It's what Alberta conservatives get wrong about Quebec. They don't get all these handouts because they threaten to separate. They get handouts because they're always selling their votes.

Calgary voters have also gladly and enthusiastically ceded as much decision making power as possible to provincial governments that actively work against the city's best interests, which is unique among the big cities in Canada. Calgary gets ignored for federal money because of blindly loyal voting patters, and gets underfunded provincially because of blindly loyal voting patterns.

The biggest federal funding announcement came ahead of an election where the Liberals won two seats and were looking to be competitive in a couple others. As soon as the blue fortress looked vulnerable the infrastructure dollars came pouring in from both the Conservatives and the Liberals. Who woulda thought.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

It's what Alberta conservatives get wrong about Quebec. They don't get all these handouts because they threaten to separate. They get handouts because they're always selling their votes.

I have been trying to beat this drum hard for a few years now and people just don't get it, Alberta could slap every political party upside the head by swinging our votes away from team blue. That disruption if maintained over 2 election cycles would vastly change how Alberta is treated.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

It's what Alberta conservatives get wrong about Quebec. They don't get all these handouts because they threaten to separate. They get handouts because they're always selling their votes.

Calgary voters have also gladly and enthusiastically ceded as much decision making power as possible to provincial governments that actively work against the city's best interests, which is unique among the big cities in Canada. Calgary gets ignored for federal money because of blindly loyal voting patters, and gets underfunded provincially because of blindly loyal voting patterns.

The biggest federal funding announcement came ahead of an election where the Liberals won two seats and were looking to be competitive in a couple others. As soon as the blue fortress looked vulnerable the infrastructure dollars came pouring in from both the Conservatives and the Liberals. Who woulda thought.

You don't need to buy my love, you only need to drive past in a big blue truck.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Duruss

I have been trying to beat this drum hard for a few years now and people just don't get it, Alberta could slap every political party upside the head by swinging our votes away from team blue. That disruption if maintained over 2 election cycles would vastly change how Alberta is treated.

I guess ideology prevails to too many Albertans.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I guess ideology prevails to too many Albertans.

I’d call it brand identity rather than ideology.

[btimbit]

I don't think I've ever voted for the same party twice in AB. Between how much the parties themselves change and how you change as an individual, how do people just blindly vote for the same party over and over?

I get that it's mostly people that don't follow politics but still, it's just mind bottling to me

[timun]

I voted thrice for Greg Clark.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Between how much the parties themselves change and how you change as an individual, how do people just blindly vote for the same party over and over?

People treat political parties like sports teams.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I don't think I've ever voted for the same party twice in AB. Between how much the parties themselves change and how you change as an individual, how do people just blindly vote for the same party over and over?

I get that it's mostly people that don't follow politics but still, it's just mind bottling to me

The scary part is most people don't follow politics or even know the issues at hand. That has me extremely worried that Smith might win.

[Faust]

Battleground Calgary: Alberta NDP move election campaign HQ to city's core

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...gary-1.6761221

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Dion

The scary part is most people don't follow politics or even know the issues at hand. That has me extremely worried that Smith might win.

The Cons will have a massive budget surplus due to oil prices and will ensure they commit enough to buy the one the fence votes in the upcoming budget

NDP really need the economy to crash ��

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1630368360583274496

Getting things done.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The Cons will have a massive budget surplus due to oil prices and will ensure they commit enough to buy the one the fence votes in the upcoming budget

NDP really need the economy to crash ��

Doubt it'd matter, economy goes downhill they'll blame the Feds, and people will lap it up

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1630368360583274496

Getting things done.

The UCP doesn’t set the price of oil

[GGG]

I wish we would budget based on $50 WTI and all other oil revenues need to go into debt reduction / savings.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

People treat political parties like sports teams.

I’ll counter with, people saw an incredibly lucrative opportunity to capitalize on those tendencies and it’s the entire political playbook now.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by GGG

I wish we would budget based on $50 WTI and all other oil revenues need to go into debt reduction / savings.

I'd be happy if they just went back to the original intent of 30% of non-renewable revenue going to the Heritage fund.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I’ll counter with, people saw an incredibly lucrative opportunity to capitalize on those tendencies and it’s the entire political playbook now.

Well yeah, it's a bit of both, really.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by GGG

I wish we would budget based on $50 WTI and all other oil revenues need to go into debt reduction / savings.

I wish we’d budget no royalty revenue for operations and they all go to capital and savings/debt reduction.