[Trade] VGK acquire Alec Martinez for 2020 2nd (VGK), 2021 2nd (STL)

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by AC

I heard from a reliable source earlier in the year that Vatanen would have been part of the Hall trade to Calgary.

Wouldn't be completely surprised if we pursue him again.

Makes sense IMO. I always thought hed be an amazing fit with thos group.

And I see NJ as the 2and best trade partner for the Flames. They have a lot to offer.

[sureLoss]

Reminder that Martinez is not a rental. He still has another year after this season.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by AC

I heard from a reliable source earlier in the year that Vatanen would have been part of the Hall trade to Calgary.

Wouldn't be completely surprised if we pursue him again.

That would have been a massive deal. Any idea what was rumoured to be going to NJ?

[topfiverecords]

It really is D-Day.

[Flash Walken]

Imagine trading away 2 2nd round picks and still having three left in the next two drafts.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I seriously doubt Brodie is available. Nothing in the history of this team would show that they're willing to be proactive and sell. Not while the organization's top priority is still on the table (sneaking into the playoffs). Unlike the Glencross trade, moving Brodie would sink the season given that Hamonic and Giordano are weeks away from returning.

It may be short sighted, but it's how we do things.

I just cannot see any team in a playoff race trading its best, healthy defenseman. I don't see it as not being proactive, or short-sighted, but instead telling the team "we're done". I just don't see that happening.

If good news comes back on Gio or Hammer before the deadline, then I could see it, not overly likely, but could see it.

[FlamesNation23]

I really wish we would sell if this is the market and then retool in FA and draft. Unfortunately we have too many injuries so tre wont do anything and we will be in the same place next yr.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Yah, when every team in a playoff position is active in adding defensemen, why would Calgary trade theirs? They won't. I suppose I understand the fear of losing Brodie and Hamonic to the market for "nothing" but, in a cap world, cap space is something. I'm okay if both those guys sign somewhere else after the season and we're left with cap space. And I'm okay if they're both re-signed. But, I'd be p'od if they were traded for draft picks while we're in the middle of a playoff race.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Imagine trading away 2 2nd round picks and still having three left in the next two drafts.

And you know why that is also right? Or is this just another shot at the GM.

[Bonded]

Those D injuries are reallllly dragging us down. What crappy luck.

[TheScorpion]

no surprise

https://twitter.com/user/status/1229893005521440771

[1qqaaz]

Would much rather pay 2 seconds for Martinez, who has some term left, than a second + for Scandella.

I wonder how many D buyers are left after today.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by AC

I heard from a reliable source earlier in the year that Vatanen would have been part of the Hall trade to Calgary.

It certainly seems like they were working on a blockbuster. I’d kill to know all the details of that trade.

[TheScorpion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1229897627464077313

[blankall]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Would much rather pay 2 seconds for Martinez, who has some term left, than a second + for Scandella.

I wonder how many D buyers are left after today.

I'd be upset if the Flames made either of those moves.

If the plan is to compete with this core, at this stage, they are better off saving all of their assets and figuring it out on the UFA market.

I actually like the Flames current stance that they won't trade away significant futures for a rental.

I realize that Martinez isn't a rental, but the Flames are getting Valimaki and Giordano back at some point. Valimaki may not return this year, but he'll be back next year. Both Andersson and Kylington look able to take over a Martinez role IMO too.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Imagine trading away 2 2nd round picks and still having three left in the next two drafts.

Imagine paying half a billion dollars for an NHL team and being given the best expansion rules in NHL expansion history to acquire players.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Would much rather pay 2 seconds for Martinez, who has some term left, than a second + for Scandella.

I wonder how many D buyers are left after today.

After seeing some of the other returns this deal actually seems kind of reasonable.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Imagine trading away 2 2nd round picks and still having three left in the next two drafts.

It would be awful nice to be handed a team and a half worth of NHL quality depth, and not have to do any work to have an excellent team on day one. I'd be pissed if I was the former expansion teams who basically got waiver fodder to choose from.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Redrum

It would be awful nice to be handed a team and a half worth of NHL quality depth, and not have to do any work to have an excellent team on day one. I'd be pissed if I was the former expansion teams who basically got waiver fodder to choose from.

It is funny that that is the prevailing view now.

At the time he was heavily criticized for not taking the best current team he could, and trading for too many futures.

In reality, he had to do a massive amount of work.


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[blankall]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

It is funny that that is the prevailing view now.

At the time he was heavily criticized for not taking the best current team he could, and trading for too many futures.

In reality, he had to do a massive amount of work.


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Not to mention the GM did an amazing job of drafting players that gelled together and were far more than the sum of their parts. What Vegas did was unheard of in professional sports.