TJ Brodie appreciation thread

[gunnner]

Cheers to this thread and boo-urns to every knucklehead who fired TJ into the sun over the last two years.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

But you are not trading away Giordano or Hanifin (who just signed a 6-year contract). Or you will have to trade away on of the 3 youngsters to make room to keep both Brodie and Hamonic. If not, we will run into another "too many veterans in the lineup" problem again.

Trust in Treliving. But, like I said, if I'm forced to choose, it's Brodie. Look at what happens when Peters decides to change things up. He typically leaves Hanifin and Hamonic and puts Andersson up with Gio (and they play pretty well).

Then there's the fact that Kylington and Brodie have similar skill sets. I don't know who matched Hamonic.

[killer_carlson]

He sees the ice so much better on the right hand side

[Locke]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

He sees the ice so much better on the right hand side

Thats heresy you anti-Gulutzan-ite!

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

WTF?

The guy is playing well as a top pairing defenseman, and would still have another year left on a great contract. First of all, you don't trade him. And second, if you do, it better be for a lot more than that.

Last time we traded a ‘top pairing’ D with 1 year remaining before UFA, we got a low 1st and a B prospect. It could be argued that Bouwmeester had more value than TJ (although I would disagree).

If we choose to trade, we may not get as much as we hope.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Last time we traded a ‘top pairing’ D with 1 year remaining before UFA, we got a low 1st and a B prospect. It could be argued that Bouwmeester had more value than TJ (although I would disagree).

If we choose to trade, we may not get as much as we hope.

You forgot Berra!!

But Treliving > Feaster. You may be right that expectations are too high, but Feaster got fleeced in that one.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Last time we traded a ‘top pairing’ D with 1 year remaining before UFA, we got a low 1st and a B prospect. It could be argued that Bouwmeester had more value than TJ (although I would disagree).

If we choose to trade, we may not get as much as we hope.

That was Feaster. He admittedly never tried to win trades. Treliving is a wizard and would get way more

[GranteedEV]

TJ Brodie is currently:


T-9th in 5 on 5 points for defensemen
T-9th in ES points for defensemen
T-1st in 5 on 5 primary assists for defensemen
3rd in ES Time-on-Ice% Quality of Competition (though Giordano is first... can anyone say Norris?)
14th in 5 on 5 Corsi-For % for defensemen (400+5 on 5 minutes)
1st in 5 on 5 Goals-For % for defensemen (400+ 5 on 5 minutes)
T-7th in fewest penalties taken per minute (500+ minutes)
T-14th in most penalties drawn per minute (500+ minutes)


We have the best top pair in the entire NHL.

[troutman]

1st in NHL plus/minus = +18

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by troutman

1st in NHL plus/minus = +18

That's impressive.

More so considering the past two seasons.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Last time we traded a ‘top pairing’ D with 1 year remaining before UFA, we got a low 1st and a B prospect. It could be argued that Bouwmeester had more value than TJ (although I would disagree).

If we choose to trade, we may not get as much as we hope.

Just because Feaster made a bad trade and a trade he didn't have to make doesn't mean Treliving should be gun-shy about moving one of Brodie or Hamonic this summer.

Both are having fantastic seasons, both are UFA's summer of 2020. With the emergence of Valimaski, Rasmus and Kylington it's prudent to look at the cap and decide who should move out. Either should command sizeable returns.

Toronto could be a trading partner for either.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

Just because Feaster made a bad trade and a trade he didn't have to make doesn't mean Treliving should be gun-shy about moving one of Brodie or Hamonic this summer.

Both are having fantastic seasons, both are UFA's summer of 2020. With the emergence of Valimaski, Rasmus and Kylington it's prudent to look at the cap and decide who should move out. Either should command sizeable returns.

Toronto could be a trading partner for either.

Maybe WN ends up a Flame after all, just next summer. Could see Brodie and a young forward going for him if TJ ends up replenishing his stock.

However if he indeed is back to being the Brodie of old I'd also be inclined to keep him cause I love the way he's playing when he's skating and seeing the ice so well.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Maybe WN ends up a Flame after all, just next summer. Could see Brodie and a young forward going for him if TJ ends up replenishing his stock.

However if he indeed is back to being the Brodie of old I'd also be inclined to keep him cause I love the way he's playing when he's skating and seeing the ice so well.

The Flames look like they are in fantastic shape on the left side, but less so on the right. With Brodie playing like he is on the right side next to Giordano, I would be more reluctant to move him.

[TheIronMaiden]

Brodie 16th all time in Games Played as a Flame after last night. It's pretty cool to see.

[Aeneas]

Love Brodie, always have. He does things on the ice with his feet, his stick and his brain that none of our D men can do. He always makes some little play that leaves me in awe. Or some big play.

TJ plays the game with class. I respect that.

There have been some awful things written about him on this site over the years. Hope some people reflect a little.

I really like our 6 D right now. Kylington looking all right also, pretty fine guy for our 6-8 D man!

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

Just because Feaster made a bad trade and a trade he didn't have to make doesn't mean Treliving should be gun-shy about moving one of Brodie or Hamonic this summer.

Both are having fantastic seasons, both are UFA's summer of 2020. With the emergence of Valimaski, Rasmus and Kylington it's prudent to look at the cap and decide who should move out. Either should command sizeable returns.

Toronto could be a trading partner for either.

The 3 rookies have looked ok in 3rd pairing roles but they are not close to replacing what Brodie brings.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

The 3 rookies have looked ok in 3rd pairing roles but they are not close to replacing what Brodie brings.

You know, I personally would love to see him stay in Calgary because I am used to you guys, and I am used to him playing here- and I love the whole team at this point. However, if they do decide to trade him, I would love to see him to go to the Leafs. But then again, I don't want to have to make up another handle on another message board and get to know 100,000 plus more annoying fans that talk out their butt trumpets every time he farts the wrong way... So I guess he's just gonna have to stay in Calgary. That's that.

[TheOnlyBilko]

Hmmmm I guess TJ Brodie is 1st in the league for +/-, that's pretty darn good. Comeback POY & James Norris for Brodie.

Giordano is killing it too he's definitely a Norris candidate as well. Both are. Definitely the best pairing so far in the NHL but I'm a lil bias perhaps

[BigErnSalute_16]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

The 3 rookies have looked ok in 3rd pairing roles but they are not close to replacing what Brodie brings.

I honestly think Rasmus is close to replacing what Brodie brings, and I love Brodie.

First season in the league and he is the guy to join Gio on the top pair when the defence gets shuffled, and he never looks out of place doing it.

Sure, he still makes some mistakes, as rookies do, but by the end of the year and the experience he will gain I think most of those will be ironed out. It might be a little much to expect him to completely replace Brodie next year but with Hanifin and Hamonic progressing this year too, they will be ready to pick up more of the slack next year, and I think Rasmus would be a fine replacement for Brodie if they choose to trade him.

Speaking of trading Brodie, someone mentioned it above and I'm not saying I think this is 100% possible but I think there is a world where Brodie continues the season at this pace and establishes himself as a top pair D-man and the number 2 on the best pair in the league while at the same time Nylander, after missing so long takes a little while to get up to speed, and doesn't have a great season, diminishing his value a little. Which could open up a possibility of a Brodie+ Jankowski or Dube for Nylander type move.

[DazzlinDino]

I hope TJ stays in Calgary he is an asset that is hard to acquire. You need stable experienced veteran players like Gio and Brodie that can be there for the young guys. TJ is part of the team, these are his friends, this is his home. What happens if we make a trade but the guy we bring in is inconstant, lazy or just doesn't fit. I think we have a good group; We need to work with the guys we have and make this a team that strives to make the playoffs every year.