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Old 01-29-2025, 01:44 PM   #21
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Was it? At the time of the signing most seemed pretty positive about it. He had a solid record up to that point.
I wasn't a huge fan of the signing. I've been willing to give Francis the benefit of the doubt, but I find that I'm not liking his moves more and more. Seattle could use a change of direction and it's time that he was replaced.
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Old 01-29-2025, 01:51 PM   #22
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Goalies are awesome.

This guy had a 30-9-1 record in his ufa year with a 1.98 GAA and .922 save%

That was his 6th year if being a very good NHL starter.

Completely shat the bed since signing as a UFA in Seattle.
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Old 01-29-2025, 01:58 PM   #23
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No idea if that is realistic, guys like you and Royle9 would know better but I would obviously totally do that. I would even consider adding a 3rd round pick if they wanted. Flames could bury Grubauer in the minors for two years and call it a day and effectively get Wright for a 3rd and Vladar. Guess it would depend on how much value Francis places on cap space.
I doubt they would do that, I was being facetious. Vladar has pretty much no value at this point. Now if it was Cooley that might interest them but I still think the pot would have to be sweetened a lot to send a guy of Wright's pedigree to a division rival. Does Cooley, and a 2nd for Grubby and Wright get it done? I still think like they would want a bit more.
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Old 01-29-2025, 02:00 PM   #24
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No idea if that is realistic, guys like you and Royle9 would know better but I would obviously totally do that. I would even consider adding a 3rd round pick if they wanted. Flames could bury Grubauer in the minors for two years and call it a day and effectively get Wright for a 3rd and Vladar. Guess it would depend on how much value Francis places on cap space.
I doubt they would do that, I was being facetious. Vladar has pretty much no value at this point. Now if it was Cooley that might interest them but I still think the pit would have to be sweetened a lot to send a guy of Wright's pedigree to a division rival. Does Cooley, and a 2nd for Grubby and Wright get it done? I still think they would want a bit more.
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Old 01-29-2025, 02:02 PM   #25
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No idea if that is realistic, guys like you and Royle9 would know better but I would obviously totally do that. I would even consider adding a 3rd round pick if they wanted. Flames could bury Grubauer in the minors for two years and call it a day and effectively get Wright for a 3rd and Vladar. Guess it would depend on how much value Francis places on cap space.
I just don't think he gives us a future piece like Wright. No way.
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This is pretty wild when you think about it. Chosen in the expansion draft, extended, had a solid career prior to getting there. All arrows pointed up.

Beaten out by Joey Daccord.
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Old 01-29-2025, 04:07 PM   #27
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OK, how about Grubauer and a 1st for Vladar? Who knows, maybe a change of scenery does them both some good.
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Grubauer clears and has been assigned to Coachella Valley. 28-year-old Ales Stezka and his 0 games of NHL experience promoted to the bigs.
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Goalies are awesome.

This guy had a 30-9-1 record in his ufa year with a 1.98 GAA and .922 save%

That was his 6th year if being a very good NHL starter.

Completely shat the bed since signing as a UFA in Seattle.
On a good team. Most goalies are capable with a Cup contender - just ask the Blackhawks.
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Would you do Gru and Wright for Vladar and Anderson?
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Didn’t seem so long ago that the Gruuuuuuuu chant haunted me
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On a good team. Most goalies are capable with a Cup contender - just ask the Blackhawks.
Then it's pointless to spend money on them. Use the money to assemble a Cup contender and, as you say, most will be capable.
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Would you do Gru and Wright for Vladar and Anderson?
I wouldn’t trade Anderson straight across for Wright.
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Then it's pointless to spend money on them. Use the money to assemble a Cup contender and, as you say, most will be capable.

Tell that to the Leafs, Oilers, Canes.......shall we go on.
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I wouldn’t trade Anderson straight across for Wright.
I would do that easily. The Flames will need to take some chances on centers to get a possible #1. The Flames probably won't get bad enough to draft one.
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On a good team. Most goalies are capable with a Cup contender - just ask the Blackhawks.
This simply isn't true. And re the Blackhawks, I assume you are referring to Osgood? Seriously under-rated.

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Then it's pointless to spend money on them. Use the money to assemble a Cup contender and, as you say, most will be capable.
First, this is the wrong conclusion. And second, most will not be capable.

Yes, it is difficult to know, from year to year, which goalies will perform the best. But that doesn't change the fact that having a great goalie is the single greatest contributor to winning. And while goalie performance does vary from season to season, the best goalies are the most consistent. So the correct conclusion, with respect to maximizing your chances of winning, is to secure a great, and consistent, goalie.

Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of them. But here's hoping we've found ours!
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