01-01-2020, 04:18 PM
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#121
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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You can also argue that the NBA has become an illegitimate sport in it's quest to be more entertaining (which is I guess kind of what you were saying).
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01-01-2020, 10:42 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jayswin
You can also argue that the NBA has become an illegitimate sport in it's quest to be more entertaining (which is I guess kind of what you were saying).
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while officiating can be controversial, these takes are brutal. People take it as legitimate. It's probably the second most popular/profitable sport in the world.
That is largely on Stern and his direction.
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01-02-2020, 05:53 AM
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#123
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
while officiating can be controversial, these takes are brutal. People take it as legitimate. It's probably the second most popular/profitable sport in the world.
That is largely on Stern and his direction.
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I think there are two things at play here. 1) the corporate success which Stern engineered, and 2) the sport legitimacy itself, which is questionable because of the direction Stern took. It's pretty evident among other things he did, was that he wanted a star driven league at all costs, and that has been driven by preferential calls for those players and teams. Anyone who watches a game can see this, and I'm sure there's statistical evidence of it. In comparison to other leagues it's so much more obvious. Stern is the guy at the top who could've changed this over the years but has not, because it benefited his vision. So yes, you have corporate success, but the legitimacy of fairness, has been as fair as watching the WWE.
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01-02-2020, 10:15 AM
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#124
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Join Date: May 2016
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Originally Posted by fleury
I think there are two things at play here. 1) the corporate success which Stern engineered, and 2) the sport legitimacy itself, which is questionable because of the direction Stern took. It's pretty evident among other things he did, was that he wanted a star driven league at all costs, and that has been driven by preferential calls for those players and teams. Anyone who watches a game can see this, and I'm sure there's statistical evidence of it. In comparison to other leagues it's so much more obvious. Stern is the guy at the top who could've changed this over the years but has not, because it benefited his vision. So yes, you have corporate success, but the legitimacy of fairness, has been as fair as watching the WWE.
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Star players get preferential treatment. Full stop. I think the reason why it seems so ridiculous in the NBA is because star players are nearly always on the court and often are on the ball. IMO officiating will always be held to an impossible standard, especially with slow-mo replays and a million camera angles.
What bothers me the most about the NBA is the salary structure. The parity in the league is very poor, and if you are not a have team, it is difficult to bring in, or retain talent. What we are left with is 4 or 5 super teams in any given year, Some times even less then that. It makes the regular season appear to be meaningless.
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01-08-2020, 11:03 PM
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#125
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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The Raptors are somehow managing to tread water with all these injuries. FVV out now, along with Gasol, Siakam and Powell. I've always had a soft spot for bench players so it was fun to see Terrence Davis have a big night tonight with 23 points and 11 boards. That was a good post game interview with him too getting the little mini gatorade shower from Powell.
I maintain that this is a very fun team to watch and they really do play like a team.
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01-09-2020, 09:45 AM
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#126
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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
The Raptors are somehow managing to tread water with all these injuries. FVV out now, along with Gasol, Siakam and Powell. I've always had a soft spot for bench players so it was fun to see Terrence Davis have a big night tonight with 23 points and 11 boards. That was a good post game interview with him too getting the little mini gatorade shower from Powell.
I maintain that this is a very fun team to watch and they really do play like a team.
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Nice come back for TD2 after disparaging comments from the coach after previous game (his 8 minutes “probably being 5 minutes too many”)
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01-09-2020, 10:01 AM
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#127
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by edslunch
Nice come back for TD2 after disparaging comments from the coach after previous game (his 8 minutes “probably being 5 minutes too many”)
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Nurse said that? I missed that one. Seems a bit harsh, but I do love how Nurse has set his expectations so high. I haven't seen him take to the media before to send a message though.
These injuries could eff off soon. Missing three starters and your first guy off the bench is pretty tough to manage.
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01-09-2020, 12:06 PM
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#128
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Originally Posted by The Big Chill
Nurse said that? I missed that one. Seems a bit harsh, but I do love how Nurse has set his expectations so high. I haven't seen him take to the media before to send a message though.
These injuries could eff off soon. Missing three starters and your first guy off the bench is pretty tough to manage.
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I agree, was surprising but seems like it worked.
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“Obviously, my play was terrible the last few games,” Davis said. “I take that as a challenge. What he said there, I loved it. All of my coaches throughout my career have been like that, straightforward, no sugar-coating. And that’s the way you want when you’re a player. And the great thing about it is in this league you have games after games. So we had another game the next day which was a blessing in my eyes.
“So I just wanted to come out and show Nick Nurse and the Raptors I can play a little bit.”
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/...-career-night/
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01-09-2020, 01:06 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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The key is he didn't make those comments and the staple him to the bench.
He made those comments, then he started the next game, and pretty much let Davis prove him wrong.
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01-09-2020, 04:25 PM
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#130
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Ya Davis mentioned in his postgame comments that he agreed with Nurse that he didn't play well during the game in question and he likes having coaches that challenge him, so maybe Nurse knows what makes certain players tick, and like it was mentioned he started Davis the next game to prove himself.
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01-12-2020, 03:51 PM
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#131
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Commie Referee
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01-12-2020, 06:42 PM
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#132
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Can't believe the Raps lost tonights game. I turned it off when they were ahead by about 20 points. I don't know what happened but these games can be a confidence killer.
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01-20-2020, 03:40 PM
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#133
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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How about Norman Powell lately. Even before his injury he was playing absolutely lights out.
27 points tonight in only 25 minutes. He has scored 20 or more points in all but one game since Dec. 11.
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01-21-2020, 05:11 PM
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#135
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
How about Norman Powell lately. Even before his injury he was playing absolutely lights out.
27 points tonight in only 25 minutes. He has scored 20 or more points in all but one game since Dec. 11.
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I thought Powell's career was on it's last legs as a potential guy, and this past month he's turned it on. I still think he doesn't have the head for the game (my theory is he can't focus), but it's now become an interesting conundrum - keep or trade? I'm sure Uriji would dangle him in a heartbeat in any deal, but this certainly brings up his value substantially if he can keep it up. I wonder what a Gasol and Powell deal can bring back in return?
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01-25-2020, 01:36 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I'm going to guess that Vince Carter may be a target this year. I think they're mentally strong enough to bring him in where they won't rely or be too gaga over him.
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01-26-2020, 02:43 AM
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#137
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
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Big win for my Jazz yesterday against the Mavs. Rudy Gobert is such a beast. Will be criminal if he doesnt end up on the allstar team. Had one of the most incredible shot blocks I've ever seen to win the game.
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01-26-2020, 12:39 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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nm
Last edited by chummer; 01-26-2020 at 12:48 PM.
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01-26-2020, 12:50 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash per TMZ
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01-26-2020, 01:01 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Unbelievable.. horrible news
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