07-19-2018, 10:17 AM
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#21
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by keenan87
I always wonder how other GMs find out about these things. Do they receive an email notification on their Outlook? Is it from a staff member or does the league have an automated system to announce all of this.
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They're in a Facebook group chat.
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07-19-2018, 10:18 AM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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Treliving refuses to give the player the leverage when he cant control the outcome. Plays hardball, my way or walk. AND I LOVE IT!
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07-19-2018, 10:18 AM
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#23
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Any word what kulak is asking for?
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Only that he please don't end up in Edmonton
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07-19-2018, 10:19 AM
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#24
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First Line Centre
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I don't understand this at all, and don't have an idea if he is actually at risk of being picked off waivers. From the GM's perspective, why do this?
A) Get rid of him. Avoid being stuck to an arbitrator-awarded contract.
B) Have him pass, and plan to keep him. Prove a point that he is undesirable leading up to arbitration.
C) Have him pass, and plan to deal him. Does passing waivers right now help a receiving team in a trade at all? I assume not.
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07-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I always wonder how other GMs find out about these things. Do they receive an email notification on their Outlook? Is it from a staff member or does the league have an automated system to relay all of the information.
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Slack channel
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07-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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#26
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I always wonder how other GMs find out about these things. Do they receive an email notification on their Outlook? Is it from a staff member or does the league have an automated system to announce all of this.
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I kind of assumed that it was an e-mail notification from the league... I wonder if the NHL has an internal app that gives you a push notification for stuff like this.
Anyways I'm highly opposed to offering up a pretty steady 24 year old defenseman for nothing. I can't imagine his arb ask was that high.
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07-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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#27
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Only that he please don't end up in Edmonton
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He's from Edmonton and might like that actually. Not sure if he was a GG favorite though so that could work against him. And he's not related to any old Oiler.
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07-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
A team with bad defence and lots of cap space.
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At this time of year though, even the Edmontons of the world think their defence is workable. Frankly, does Kulak make even their top 6D? He'd have to beat Benning/Russell/Nurse out. I actually think he is marginally better than Russell and maybe Benning, but I doubt they'd see it that way.
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07-19-2018, 10:21 AM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
A team with bad defence and lots of cap space.
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How about a team with bad defence and not much cap space? I would assume even a highly rewarded Kulak is sub $1,000,000.
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07-19-2018, 10:21 AM
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#30
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
I don't understand this at all, and don't have an idea if he is actually at risk of being picked off waivers. From the GM's perspective, why do this?
A) Get rid of him. Avoid being stuck to an arbitrator-awarded contract.
B) Have him pass, and plan to keep him. Prove a point that he is undesirable leading up to arbitration.
C) Have him pass, and plan to deal him. Does passing waivers right now help a receiving team in a trade at all? I assume not.
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It is very obviously B)
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07-19-2018, 10:22 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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If you conclude that Andersson/Kylington/Valimaki are the better option for the 3LD spot, then you're going to be paying the arbitration value to either ice an inferior player or be significantly overpaying for a #7.
Frankly I think bother Andersson and Valimaki are more complete players at both ends of the ice today than Kulak is.
Kulak getting removed from the roster on a waiver claim would suck, but paying him a lot to be in the press box similarly doesn't make sense.
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07-19-2018, 10:22 AM
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#32
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto
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I don't see any reason why he would* be claimed.
*possible clarification to come depending on the actual outcome and other posters' responses
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07-19-2018, 10:22 AM
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#33
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Meh... there are a lot of UFA (albeit a bit older) defensemen in the market that can fill Kulak's role for around the same price.
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07-19-2018, 10:24 AM
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#34
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First Line Centre
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You misspelled Brouwer
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07-19-2018, 10:24 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
He's from Edmonton and might like that actually. Not sure if he was a GG favorite though so that could work against him. And he's not related to any old Oiler.
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See my post above, plus Edmonton is close against the cap considering Nurse has yet to sign. Plus they think Bouchard is going to start with the team and he makes $925K.
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07-19-2018, 10:25 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
At this time of year though, even the Edmontons of the world think their defence is workable. Frankly, does Kulak make even their top 6D? He'd have to beat Benning/Russell/Nurse out. I actually think he is marginally better than Russell and maybe Benning, but I doubt they'd see it that way.
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Edmonton Couldn't afford him. The Islanders would be my guess. They only have 6 D-men on their roster and they have $14,809,167 in cap space with 43 contracts.
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07-19-2018, 10:26 AM
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#37
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Stud_McCool
Meh... there are a lot of UFA (albeit a bit older) defensemen in the market that can fill Kulak's role for around the same price.
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More importantly, we have a number of prospects that can fulfill the same role for the same price.
I'd hate to lose Kulak, but if we did, it would hardly be the end of the world.
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07-19-2018, 10:27 AM
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#38
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Yup, obvious move to undermine Kulak's position in arbitration.
It is fairly common for teams to do this on depth players. Don't be surprised if they do the same thing for Hathaway.
It is a calculated risk on Treliving's part, must feel there is a low chance Kulak gets picked up.
The fact they qualified him shows that they want him on the team, just at a reasonable price.
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07-19-2018, 10:28 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Too bad, really. I didn't like Kulak a couple years ago (I thought he was just as bad as Bart) but I came around on him last year - he seemed quite solid to me. But at the end of the day, I agree, you can't get too fussed about this level of player. Could he be a Byron? Maybe, but equally as likely to be one of the dozens of other waiver wire guys who don't do anything different wherever they land.
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07-19-2018, 10:28 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: canuckleheadville
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Kulak being a LD I would think, if it were to make room for a young D, that it would be for Valimaki more so than Andersson. Which would be weird without absolute certainty that he would be more ready
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