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Old 08-07-2024, 12:46 PM   #241
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During the covid year, the first year Kylington was no longer waiver eligible, Sutter kept him on the taxi squad all season. Treliving/Sutter preferred to fill the D with players like Nesterov, Valimaki & Stone.

This meant that he was only able to play 8 games all season due to the fact the Flames were too scared to lose him to waivers and send him to the AHL, but also too scared to give him the ice time to play on the big squad. This was poor asset management in terms of player development, and it entirely on the shoulders of Treliving/Sutter.
Wrong. Kylington passed through waivers Jan 11, 2021 during the Covid Year. So the Flames were prepared to lose him, Oliver only played 8 games because he did not deserve more.

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Old 08-07-2024, 12:48 PM   #242
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:46 PM   #243
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Oh, it’s for sure insulting. Imagine acting like an incel over a hockey player? Yeesh. I’d be embarrassed if someone pointed that out.

The insulting factor just wasn’t the reason I chose it. Again, just the closest comparable.
Imagine being the kind of jerk who thinks that's a reasonable comparison!
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:51 PM   #244
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Imagine being the kind of jerk who thinks that's a reasonable comparison!
Imagine being the kind of weirdo who wasn’t involved in it and is still hung up about it.
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Old 08-07-2024, 03:20 PM   #245
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Weird thread.

It seems the people who are the most upset aren't the people angry with Kylington, but the people are are angry with the people who are angry with Kylington.

It's like this has offended some people's vision of what a true and noble Flames fan should be.
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Old 08-07-2024, 03:25 PM   #246
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Weird thread.

It seems the people who are the most upset aren't the people angry with Kylington, but the people are are angry with the people who are angry with Kylington.

It's like this has offended some people's vision of what a true and noble Flames fan should be.
I'm most upset about people making rational observations about the behavior of others in this thread. We are now enemies.
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I'm most upset about people making rational observations about the behavior of others in this thread. We are now enemies.
I’m most upset about people parodying each others posts for dramatic effect. We’re cool though, I’m not that upset.
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Old 08-07-2024, 03:43 PM   #248
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What would you do differently if you liked the upside of the player but didn't think he was good enough to be a day to day NHL player at that point?
If I was in the position to make those decisions, assuming I felt the same as you described, I would prioritize the player's development and and play them in controlled minutes. If you like a player's upside, you need to have the foresight that they will never achieve that upside without playing. You need to accept that growth doesn't come without growing pains.
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Old 08-07-2024, 04:13 PM   #249
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I hate how this happened, obviously Kylington got bad advice from his agent but maybe he gets a good opportunity with Colorado if he can break in to the top 6 and play with what's obviously a better surrounding cast of players. With the right opportunity, and as long as his mental health battles are behind him, no reason to believe he can't put up 30-40 points annually with some great wheels and a good presence from the backend in terms of breakout passes and speed out of the zone.
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Old 08-07-2024, 04:15 PM   #250
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Can we please get back to David Hale?

"Hale-storm" was an all time great nickname in a period where there wasn't much more to get excited about.

That said, is this a bit insensitive during a period of mourning for vinyl siding owners?
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The mind bottles.
No, it really doesn't.

It "Boggles" on occasion. But the mind never bottles.
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No, it really doesn't.

It "Boggles" on occasion. But the mind never bottles.
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No, it really doesn't.

It "Boggles" on occasion. But the mind never bottles.
It bottles my mind that this still needs explanation.
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I hate how this happened, obviously Kylington got bad advice from his agent but maybe he gets a good opportunity with Colorado if he can break in to the top 6 and play with what's obviously a better surrounding cast of players. With the right opportunity, and as long as his mental health battles are behind him, no reason to believe he can't put up 30-40 points annually with some great wheels and a good presence from the backend in terms of breakout passes and speed out of the zone.
I think it could go either way for him. A better supporting group of player, but a much bigger competition for ice time. The Avs are also trying to go for a Cup so aren’t likely to be patient with poor play. On the Flames, he would have likely seen a lot of unchallenged time in the top 4 and would have a lot of rope.

I can see them seeing who fits the most between Brannstrom and Kylington, then waiving the one who doesn’t. Brannstrom being only 24 and an RFA after this contract probably had more organizational value if the decision between the 2 is close. I just don’t see a Cup contending team doubling down on two reclamation projects at the time for an extended period of time.
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Imagine being the kind of weirdo who wasn’t involved in it and is still hung up about it.
1. I'm involved in this thread whether you like it or not. Deal with it.

2. Being called ‘weirdo’ by the likes of you is a badge of honour, and I shall wear it proudly.
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1. I'm involved in this thread whether you like it or not. Deal with it.

2. Being called ‘weirdo’ by the likes of you is a badge of honour, and I shall wear it proudly.
Literally no one cares.
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I LOL'd at this
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I think theres other people in here we ought to ship to Denver.
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