03-28-2024, 01:51 PM
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#2281
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by chedder
And built entirely (save for $9 million) from private funding. The difference between a Steve Balmer and a Murray Edwards. Balmer is 40 times richer, mind you.
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Plus, when MSG (the owners of The Forum at the time) threatened to sue to block construction because they said the new arena was too close to the Forum and it would hurt their business, Ballmer just bought the Forum from them for $400 million.
It's nice to be the 6th richest man in the world.
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03-28-2024, 02:31 PM
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#2282
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Park Ave SW
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This refreshed my memory. 2021 Renderings
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I swear, I once saw a more detailed interior rendering. I must be trippin.
https://flamesnation.ca/news/heres-t...-the-new-arena
Last edited by Tuco; 03-28-2024 at 02:37 PM.
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03-28-2024, 02:36 PM
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#2283
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Yeah. Main changes will be everything not crammed into a small lot, so things will be a bit more spaced out More retail. Bigger retail. Plazas added.
Club mez moving below grade is the biggest change I can suss out from the elevations.
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03-28-2024, 03:37 PM
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#2284
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Olympic Saddledome
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Originally Posted by Tuco
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It might be tough to find, but I am sure that somebody on here posted either the link to, or pictures of, fairly detailed drawings of the different levels, from event level to the upper concourses.
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03-28-2024, 03:41 PM
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#2285
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Jordan!
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Ya know...you could try lightening up and having a little fun.
Flames fans notoriously self-deprecating, we understand the short-comings of our team and just accept them as they are.
For instance, for the design of our wonderful and expensive new Stadium, we should find an excellent and amazing architect. And then find out if that architect has a significantly less-talented brother and hire that guy instead. 
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03-28-2024, 03:43 PM
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#2286
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Locke
Ya know...you could try lightening up and having a little fun.
Flames fans notoriously self-deprecating, we understand the short-comings of our team and just accept them as they are.
For instance, for the design of our wonderful and expensive new Stadium, we should find an excellent and amazing architect. And then find out if that architect has a significantly less-talented brother and hire that guy instead. |
He is pissy because his team is relocating.
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03-28-2024, 03:46 PM
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#2287
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
He is pissy because his team is relocating.
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I've said it before, there is no shame in relocating your Franchise to a de-commissioned aircraft carrier in the Pacific.
It opens up a lot of opportunities and the commute from the airport to the game can't be beat!
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03-28-2024, 03:51 PM
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#2288
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Originally Posted by Locke
I've said it before, there is no shame in relocating your Franchise to a de-commissioned aircraft carrier in the Pacific.
It opens up a lot of opportunities and the commute from the airport to the game can't be beat!
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keeps the players in a tax-free jurisdiction!
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03-28-2024, 04:18 PM
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#2289
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
keeps the players in a tax-free jurisdiction!
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Have to worry about pirates though.
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03-28-2024, 04:55 PM
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#2290
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Tuco
I swear, I once saw a more detailed interior rendering. I must be trippin.
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There were interior elevations in the original development permit application, but they were hard to visualize what it would look like.
I never saw any interior renderings like this one that was released for Little Caesars...
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03-28-2024, 04:56 PM
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#2291
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Originally Posted by getbak
Plus, when MSG (the owners of The Forum at the time) threatened to sue to block construction because they said the new arena was too close to the Forum and it would hurt their business, Ballmer just bought the Forum from them for $400 million.
It's nice to be the 6th richest man in the world. |
Nothing shows the absolute oblivion to the realities of this project, for the city of Calgary, than comparing it to MSG in New York. Of course the way the projects got funded were different, the economic benefits from the projects are also wildly different.
This shows less the difference between Balmer and Edward’s and more the difference between the two projects. Balmer wouldn’t privately fund our rink either because it would be a ####ty investment. The funding model here in Calgary isn’t really about Edward’s it’s about the quality of the investment opportunity.
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03-28-2024, 05:03 PM
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#2293
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Park Ave SW
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Originally Posted by getbak
There were interior elevations in the original development permit application, but they were hard to visualize what it would look like.
I never saw any interior renderings like this one that was released for Little Caesars...
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There were some drawings of some sort. They were actually quite detailed. I've never seen anything like you posted in Detroit.
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03-28-2024, 05:18 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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If those rumours about modeling after Little Caesars are true then it’s outstanding news.
I’ve only been to 6 arenas …but Little Caesars definitely impressed me the most.
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03-28-2024, 05:18 PM
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#2295
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Freeway
Yeah. Main changes will be everything not crammed into a small lot, so things will be a bit more spaced out More retail. Bigger retail. Plazas added.
Club mez moving below grade is the biggest change I can suss out from the elevations.
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The bigger site is a big deal. Rogers is good but in too small a site which affects the concourse levels, Hate to say it but I expect once this is done it will be far superior to what we got up here, and I get to help pay for it.
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03-28-2024, 05:23 PM
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#2296
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
This shows less the difference between Balmer and Edward’s and more the difference between the two projects. Balmer wouldn’t privately fund our rink either because it would be a ####ty investment. The funding model here in Calgary isn’t really about Edward’s it’s about the quality of the investment opportunity.
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And looking at the rest of the NBA, most teams play in local or state government owned arenas, even big market teams like Atlanta, Houston, Dallas and Brooklyn. Pro sports teams getting public subsidies and help is unfortunately the norm.
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03-29-2024, 09:39 PM
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#2297
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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There has to be an updated design and architectural plan somewhere for the public to see…?
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03-29-2024, 10:33 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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I would like to encourage every one of you to associate McDavid becoming a UFA with the opening of our new arena.
Remind every oilers fan that 11 years of being a loser in Canadas Siberia is easy to leave for a team with all the money in the world and a brand new arena.
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Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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03-30-2024, 08:57 AM
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#2299
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
Have to worry about pirates though.
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Once its out into International Waters you can re-commission the .50 Cals.
Besides, two Hockey teams and spectators? Pirates would have to be nuts to try and take that on.
Unless they're unusually cunning Pirates and use the legitimate purchase of NHL tickets as their key boarding strategy.... 
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03-30-2024, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
There were interior elevations in the original development permit application, but they were hard to visualize what it would look like.
I never saw any interior renderings like this one that was released for Little Caesars...
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That’s a terrible design for the new Dome. Calgary winters are horrible and to have the new arena not be enclosed would cause dozens of games to be rescheduled
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