02-23-2018, 07:18 PM
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#81
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Official:
https://www.nhl.com/senators/news/se...ol/c-296292272
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he Ottawa Senators (@Senators) announced today that the club has acquired goaltending prospect Filip Gustavsson, defenceman Ian Cole, a 2018 first-round draft pick and a 2019 third-round draft choice from the Pittsburgh Penguins as part of a three-team trade with the Vegas Golden Knights. As part of the deal, centre Derick Brassard, forward Vincent Dunn and Ottawa's third-round selection in the 2018 will go to the Penguins.
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https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/pe...de/c-296285780
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The Pittsburgh Penguins have acquired forward Derick Brassard in a three-team trade with the Ottawa Senators and Vegas Golden Knights, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Jim Rutherford.
The Penguins also received a 2018 third-round draft pick and prospect forward Vincent Dunn from the Senators; and the Pens also received prospect forward Tobias Lindberg from the Golden Knights.
Pittsburgh traded defenseman Ian Cole, goalie Filip Gustavsson, a 2018 first-round draft pick and a 2019 third-round selection to the Senators.
The Penguins sent forward Ryan Reaves and a 2018 fourth-round draft pick originally acquired from Vancouver to the Golden Knights. Vegas is also retaining 40% of Brassard's salary this season.
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Last edited by sureLoss; 02-23-2018 at 07:24 PM.
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02-23-2018, 07:24 PM
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#82
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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So final trade:
Sens give up:
Brassard
Sens 2018 3rd
Vincent Dunn
Sens get:
Ian Cole
Pens 2018 1st
Pens 2019 3rd
Filip Gustavsson
Pens give up:
Ian Cole
Pens 2018 1st
Pens 2019 3rd
Filip Gustavsson
Ryan Reaves
Van 2018 4th
Pens get:
Brassard (with Vegas retaining 40% salary)
Tobias Lindberg
Sens 2018 3rd
Vincent Dunn
Vegas gives up:
Tobias Lindberg
Vegas retains:
40% of Brassard's salary
Vegas gets:
Ryan Reaves
Van 2018 4th
Last edited by sureLoss; 02-23-2018 at 07:37 PM.
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02-23-2018, 07:28 PM
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#83
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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02-23-2018, 07:28 PM
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#84
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
So final trade:
Sens give up:
Brassard
Sens 2018 3rd
Vince Dunn
Sens get:
Ian Cole
Pens 2018 1st
Pens 2019 3rd
Filip Gustavsson
Pens give up:
Ian Cole
Pens 2018 1st
Pens 2019 3rd
Filip Gustavsson
Ryan Reaves
Van 2018 4th
Pens get:
Brassard (with Vegas retaining 40% salary)
Tobias Lindberg
2018 3rd
Vince Dunn
Vegas gives up:
Tobias Lindberg
Vegas retains:
40% of Brassard's salary
Vegas gets:
Ryan Reaves
Van 2018 4th
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Vegas doesnt seem to get much of a return for their money
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02-23-2018, 07:29 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Very complex deal.
Like it for the Sens if they are blowing it up. I didn’t like the trade that brought Brassard to Ottawa. Zibenijad and a 2nd.
Love it for the Pens as this gives them a solid 3rd line centre for this year and next.
Don’t really get it for Vegas. Is this a favor for getting Fleury+2nd in the expansion draft?
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02-23-2018, 07:32 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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The Knights' farts have smelled like roses all season so I'm sure this will work out for them
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02-23-2018, 07:33 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
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Doesn't seem like Vegas gets much. Giving up Lindberg is nothing but Reaves is a borderline NHLer, isn't he? Maybe some depth for the playoffs.
Absorbing 40% for 2 years only gets you a 4th rounder?
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02-23-2018, 07:38 PM
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#88
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Reaves can give you 4th line minutes especially if they get into a physical series. Makes them a little tougher to play against up front.
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02-23-2018, 07:39 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
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VGK getting Reaves specifically for LA/Anaheim by the looks of it to me.
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02-23-2018, 07:39 PM
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#90
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Doesn't seem like Vegas gets much. Giving up Lindberg is nothing but Reaves is a borderline NHLer, isn't he? Maybe some depth for the playoffs.
Absorbing 40% for 2 years only gets you a 4th rounder?
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i think reeves is one of the best 4th liners in the NHL.
or, at least, he was. That may not sound like much, but it is.
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02-23-2018, 07:42 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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The wording makes it sound like this years Salary rather than both years. Not sure if that's right. But why do you make Pittsburgh stronger for a 4th round pick.
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02-23-2018, 07:44 PM
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#92
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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According to my calculations, Vegas will pay $1.6 million in cash (40% of what is still owed to Brassard this season plus 40% of 3.5 million for Brassard next season)
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02-23-2018, 07:46 PM
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#93
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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02-23-2018, 07:57 PM
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#94
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Ok according to Shannon, Vegas did this deal to cockblock another Western Conference team:
https://twitter.com/user/status/967231662550585346
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02-23-2018, 08:02 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Only teams I can think of are San Jose and LA.
No way we were in on Brassard at least I hope we weren’t.
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02-23-2018, 08:02 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Its Derek Brassard. Are you really giving things up just to keep him out of your conference?
Come on John Shannon
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02-23-2018, 08:03 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Brassard to Sanjo? Wonder if that was what Vegas was 'cockblocking'.....
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02-23-2018, 08:06 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Its Derek Brassard. Are you really giving things up just to keep him out of your conference?
Come on John Shannon
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He's on pace for 50 points this season. That's 2nd line center pace. A team like Sanjo could be a Brassard away from being the best team in the Pacific.
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02-23-2018, 08:09 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Its Derek Brassard. Are you really giving things up just to keep him out of your conference?
Come on John Shannon
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If "giving up things" is $1.6m in caphit and exchanging a prospect for a 4th just so your opponents don't add a 2nd line centre, I can't blame Vegas for doing it.
Plus I'm sure there's a bit of goodwill from Vegas towards Pittsburgh for Fleury.
Edit:
https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/statu...34548726673408
@JSportsnet: Am told that western team was Winnipeg https://t.co/RasFxxzDZJ
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Not sure what Winnipeg's lines usually are but having a Brassard centering Laine and Ehlers instead of a somebody named Andrew Copp from last game would've been big.
Last edited by Anduril; 02-23-2018 at 08:13 PM.
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02-23-2018, 08:18 PM
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#100
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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With Thornton I could see SJ as being interested in Brassard.
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