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Old 06-23-2018, 10:34 AM   #1
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:44 AM   #3
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Why not just hold on to him for the remaining year instead of impacting the cap for two seasons? Even if he's slow and useless, he still should be considered a serviceable dman. Bizarre unless they need the room for a Tavares run.
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Why not just hold on to him for the remaining year instead of impacting the cap for two seasons? Even if he's slow and useless, he still should be considered a serviceable dman. Bizarre unless they need the room for a Tavares run.
Washington said yesterday they would take him back if he was bought out by the Avs. For those of you thinking they got a deal on Grubauer for a 2nd, the orpik buyout was part of the cost. Smells like cap circumvention to me
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Trade him to the Oilers for Nuge. Edmonton is dumb even to do it and the fan base would drink the kool-aid of obtaining a Stanley Cup Champion Dman
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:44 PM   #6
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I don't understand how this is allowed. He actually gets a raise from the team that had him yet they get a more cap space?

That's not right.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:55 PM   #7
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It doesn't pass the CBA circumvention smell test.

While not explicitly forbidden by the CBA, you can make the argument that violates the CBA in 1 of 2 ways:

1. Renegotiating a contract. According to the CBA players contracts cannot be re-negotiated. By having the Avs buyout the contract and then re-signing Orpik to a lower cap hit contract, the Caps are effectively re-negotiating Orpik's contract.

2. Salary Retention rules. You could argue that the Avs buyout followed by re-signing Orpik to a lower cap hit contract is effectively a retained salary transaction, where the Avs acquired Orpik and are effectively trading him back at a retained salary. The CBA does not allow a team to retain salary and trade back a player to the original team until 1 calendar year has passed from the date of the trade.



The question is does the NHL try to stop this now, or let this problem fester like backloaded 12+ year contracts in the previous CBA.

Or the even bigger question, does the NHL even care?

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Curious about that too. If he just comes back to the Caps now for less I'd say that's easily cap circumvention
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:54 PM   #9
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Thanks SureLoss.

It will be interesting to see if he re-signs with the Caps and what, if anything, the NHL does about it.
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