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Old 08-21-2020, 03:57 PM   #21
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The last few years have seen a lot of goaltenders come and go through Calgary. Some with solid resumes on the downswing (Hiller, Smith, Elliott), some looking at another chance (Ramo, Talbot), some developed internally (Ortio, Rittich) and some who just serve as stop-gaps (MacDonald, Berra, Johnson). One thing common, is most of them have been well short of spectacular. Ever since #34, we have not had much, in the sense of consistency, in the backend.


2012-13
Miika Kiprusoff 24 GP (8-14-2) 3.44 GAA 0.882
Joey MacDonald 21 GP (8-9-1) 2.87 GAA 0.902
Leland Irving 6GP (2-1-1) 3.33 GAA 0.883

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Karri Ramo 40 GP (16-15-4) 2.65 0.911
Reto Berra 29 GP (9-17-2) 2.95 0.897
Joey MacDonald 11 GP (5-4-1) 2.90 0.890
Joni Ortio 9 GP (4-4-0) 2.51 0.891

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Jonas Hiller 52 GP (26-19-4) 2.36 0.918
Karri Ramo 34 GP (15-9-3) 2.60 0.912
Joni Ortio 6 GP (4-2-0) 2.52 0.908

2015-16
Karri Ramo 37 GP (17-18-1) 2.63 0.909
Jonas Hiller 26 GP (9-11-1) 3.51 0.879
Joni Ortio 22 GP (7-9-5) 2.76 0.902
Niklas Backstrom 4 GP (2-2-0) 3.35 0.881

2016-17
Brian Elliott 49 GP (26-18-3) 2.55 0.910
Chad Johnson 36 GP (18-15-1) 2.59 0.910

2017-18
Mike Smith 55 GP (25-22-6) 2.65 0.916
David Rittich 21 GP (8-6-3) 2.92 0.904
Jon Gillies 11 GP (3-5-1) 2.88 0.896

2018-19
David Rittich 45 GP (27-9-5) 2.61 0.911
Mike Smith 42 GP (23-16-2) 2.72 0.897

2019-20
David Rittich 48 GP (24-17-6) 2.97 0.907
Cameron Talbot 26 GP (12-10-1) 2.63 0.919

2020-21
David Rittich - Under Contract
Jon Gillies - Under Contract
Cameron Talbot - UFA

At the same time, we have missed out on top/other goalies who we have been rumoured to be interested in (Bishop, Fleury, Andersen).

What happens next? Do we go back with the tandem as this year? Do we go for one of the major UFAs available this year? It is expected to be a massive crop (Lehner, Markstrom, Holtby) . Do we trade for a goalie?
Jon Gillies is also a UFA.
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:00 PM   #22
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Flames need to trade for Murray who is likely available or Georgiev who is also likely available. Have to trust the pro scouts though, and that is a scary proposition.

Both guys are young enough that if they work out the Flames will be off the goalie carousel for many years.
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Our recent goaltending history makes me think "Everything sucks and I wanna die"
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Old 08-21-2020, 04:42 PM   #24
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Yeah people can salivate over Lehner and Markstrom all they want. Why in the world are Vegas and Vancouver letting their best goaltenders go when both teams are obviously ready to be competitive? That's ridiculous. Vegas is going to run with a couple more years of Fleury and Vancouver is going to hitch their playoff hopes for the next 5 years to Demko?
They're both UFAs, so there's no guarantee they stay where they are. The concern is that if they hold out for money and/or term, it will cost money and/or term to acquire either one (duh), and the Flames may not have the first and may not want to give the second.
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:07 PM   #25
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No UFA goalie in their right mind is going to come to Calgary with how badly this organization treats the position.
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:10 PM   #26
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For the third playoff in a row, the goalie who started all our playoff games is not our presumptive opening night starter for the following season.

That's not good.
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Old 08-21-2020, 05:13 PM   #27
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Our recent goaltending history makes me think "Everything sucks and I wanna die"
Pain don't end the world, or despair, or ####in' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Til then, you've got more punishment in store.

Stand it like a man, and give some back.

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Old 08-21-2020, 05:15 PM   #28
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No UFA goalie in their right mind is going to come to Calgary with how badly this organization treats the position.
Any goalie who is waiting for an opportunity to be a starter would love to come here.

The position is wide open for the taking.
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:53 PM   #29
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Flames need to trade for Murray who is likely available or Georgiev who is also likely available. Have to trust the pro scouts though, and that is a scary proposition.

Both guys are young enough that if they work out the Flames will be off the goalie carousel for many years.
Matt Murray is awesome, and we’d be lucky to have him.
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Old 08-21-2020, 07:03 PM   #30
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What teams have the cap space and need for a top goalie?

Flames don’t have the space yet but I think they have the ability to free some up. I think a team looking for a new platoon partner would trade for Rittich which would free up his money.
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Old 08-21-2020, 07:41 PM   #31
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To be honest, I think the new age nhl team structure calls for a team that has a strong forwards/defence and a solid, unspectacular, goaltending tandem.

Flames have far bigger holes that need focus/investment, than to try to find their next kipper.

The flames got exceptional goaltending these past 2 playoff years yet were easily knocked out of the first round. Fix the forwards/defence. Goaltending has been the least concerning part of the team, in my opinion.
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It's a shame Reto Berra never panned out, if not for his nickname potential.

Arręt-o Berra was right there, you guys.
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As I have mentioned in the other thread, the only hope that we will have a stud goalie is that if Dustin Wolf becomes the new MAF in a few years. At the meantime, it will be stopgap after stopgap...
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Old 08-21-2020, 08:51 PM   #34
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Tonight's game is a perfect reminder that goalies are witches

Binnington was unbeatable last year, and carried his team to a cup

This year, he can't stop a beachball
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It's a shame Reto Berra never panned out, if not for his nickname potential.

Arręt-o Berra was right there, you guys.

Don’t you mean, Retro Beero


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Tonight's game is a perfect reminder that goalies are witches

Binnington was unbeatable last year, and carried his team to a cup

This year, he can't stop a beachball
Burn them all!!
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I really had my hopes set on Leland Irving.


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Might as well put in an offer for Binnington. I hear he’s available
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Might as well put in an offer for Binnington. I hear he’s available
But he used up all of his voodoo. The spell is broken.

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