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Old 06-05-2020, 01:10 PM   #2001
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From accusations of being a race traitor? Yes.

From accusations of being generally horrible and having awful opinions that should probably just be ignored, and not even rebutted? No.

But if you do want to engage with her, it's not okay to suggest that her skin colour makes it less acceptable for her to believe something. That is, inherently, a horrible position to try to take.
Other than skin color, she has very little in common with the people she is criticizing, and she is transparently using her skin color to try to make her point seem more valid or at least more controversial. She definitely opens herself up to that criticism.
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It's amazing that the Candice Owens video triggers a mass response but my video of the two professors does not. She is achieving her goal of being sensationalist.
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They could always get the sabres to be the ERT...they don't beat anyone.

What kind of a place is that country becoming? We're actually seeing cops take the side of someone who's hurting the people they're supposed to protect. The entire law enforcement mentality needs to change or this will only get worse.
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They could always get the sabres to be the ERT...they don't beat anyone.

What kind of a place is that country becoming? We're actually seeing cops take the side of someone who's hurting the people they're supposed to protect. The entire law enforcement mentality needs to change or this will only get worse.
It hasn't BECOME like this. It always has been like this.
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It hasn't BECOME like this. It always has been like this.
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It's amazing that the Candice Owens video triggers a mass response but my video of the two professors does not. She is achieving her goal of being sensationalist.
To be fair your video was over an hour long...
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It's always been bad but its becoming exponentially worse. I do feel that eventually someone will stand up and be a leader the world needs. Something good has to come of this.
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It's always been bad but its becoming exponentially worse. I do feel that eventually someone will stand up and be a leader the world needs. Something good has to come of this.
The difference is that you have cameras recording and showing it and now more white people care, whereas they really never gave two ####s in decades past. The police have always been brutal and violent towards minorities.
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The more we see of these videos the more it’s clear that police forces have intentionally been recruiting sociopaths pretty much forever. That’s ####ing scary.
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Last night I posted on Facebook that anyone who considers him or herself to be a "good cop" on the Buffalo PD should make a statement by resigning. How could they live with themselves knowing they're part of an organization like that? It never occurred to me that the officers would resign not as a form of protest but as a show of support of their jackbooted fascist colleagues. WTF
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Police unions I think are the bigger culprit. Thats as much an old boys club than anything ever in the history of old, Manish, clubs. Marching orders a provided by them, and likely if you don't follow suit once you're in, then you're out with nothing.

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What a strong, tough man going after teenage girls like that. Christ.
He had cop written all over him, and dumber than a fencepost
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The more we see of these videos the more it’s clear that police forces have intentionally been recruiting sociopaths pretty much forever. That’s ####ing scary.
Is there anything confirming it is really him? I just see a few random Twitter call outs and an article from questionable sources saying he was misidentified.
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Genuine question: how? None of that matters one bit to him being murdered by the police. This type of character assassination of the victim is very typical especially when a black man is murdered. Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, I can clearly recall the attempts to drag their past actions through the mud as if it means their murders were justified.

Unrelated history is trotted out like somehow it means it was deserved. Nothing in his past means he deserved to be murdered by the police. Nothing he did in his past means it was right that he was murdered by the police. Nothing he said meant he should be murdered by the police. Nothing means he deserved to be murdered by the police.
Michael Brown's "history" wasn't really unrelated history. He assaulted and robbed a person in broad daylight right before being shot. This wasn't a case of someone finding out he got a speeding ticket a decade prior, it was a violent criminal being apprehended by the police and potentially/probably escalating the situation.

Lumping him in with Eric Garner (and now Mr. Floyd), who was not at all a threat and was just selling some smokes, just muddys the water in my opinion.
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And just as bad as the Eric Garner and George Floyd character assassination, or maybe even somehow worse, was the way people painted Tamir Rice's mother as some form of deadbeat mom letting him play with a toy gun alone. The whole "where was the mom when this happened?" stuff was disgusting. Not only does she have to live with her child being murdered, but people somehow blaming her.
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is there anything confirming it is really him? I just see a few random twitter call outs and an article from questionable sources saying he was misidentified.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1268967864800870405
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It doesn't/shouldn't matter what someone has done either immediately before of for years before they are shot, the only consideration should be the same consideration the rest of us here have to live by, was there absolutely no alternative to killing someone? that's the standard the rest of have to live by, we can all defend ourselves if our lives are threatened but we are all expected to do everything else in our power to avoid killing someone including retreating, doing nothing, calling for help and using the minimum force necessary to defuse the situation, if anyone but a policemen had the choice of using a gun or a taser or pepper spray to disarm someone and we choose the gun first we would always go to jail, why doesn't the cop?
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It's unfortunate that I no longer care what the official police department says. We've seen numerous of them lie and tell mistruths for the last week.

CNN reporters getting arrested live on air continuously asking where the police would like them to move to and showing their press credentials was framed by the police department as them being arrested for refusing to move and were released once they identified themselves as journalist. The old man a couple pages back tripped and fell...T
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It doesn't/shouldn't matter what someone has done either immediately before of for years before they are shot, the only consideration should be the same consideration the rest of us here have to live by, was there absolutely no alternative to killing someone? that's the standard the rest of have to live by, we can all defend ourselves if our lives are threatened but we are all expected to do everything else in our power to avoid killing someone including retreating, doing nothing, calling for help and using the minimum force necessary to defuse the situation, if anyone but a policemen had the choice of using a gun or a taser or pepper spray to disarm someone and we choose the gun first we would always go to jail, why doesn't the cop?
If this is about Michael Brown, that's pretty much the argument. He was 6'4'' goliath of a man attacking a police officer and reaching for his gun....At least if you believe the police officer at this point (but forensic evidence didn't prove otherwise).

I mean the first time this happened they should have just got body cams so we no longer have to rely on cops words, but we now have 1000 of incidents like this (maybe not always fatal) and police still fighting not to have body cams in a lot of places...
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It's unfortunate that I no longer care what the official police department says. We've seen numerous of them lie and tell mistruths for the last week.

CNN reporters getting arrested live on air continuously asking where the police would like them to move to and showing their press credentials was framed by the police department as them being arrested for refusing to move and were released once they identified themselves as journalist. The old man a couple pages back tripped and fell...T
Maybe... but circulating a guy's name around the internet without any evidence is not cool either.
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