21st Century Fox has been holding talks to sell most of the company to Disney

[CaptainCrunch]

Opinions are opinions, but the only thing that saved the X-men franchise was Logan. The last two X-men movies were outright terrible.

[Poe969]

I didn't like Logan. When Disney takes over fox, I hope they just reboot the x-universe.

Deadpool can stay the same, don't touch that, it's fun as is.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Opinions are opinions, but the only thing that saved the X-men franchise was Logan. The last two X-men movies were outright terrible.

Disagree. You may not like DOFP and that's fine, but it is pretty widely regarded as one of the best superhero films ever, so I don't think you can say Logan saved the franchise, even though Apocalypse put it on it's heels for sure and if Phoenix doesn't work it will probably be ripe for another reboot.

I also personally think it was one of the best depictions of time travel on film.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Coach

Disagree. You may not like DOFP and that's fine, but it is pretty widely regarded as one of the best superhero films ever, so I don't think you can say Logan saved the franchise, even though Apocalypse put it on it's heels for sure and if Phoenix doesn't work it will probably be ripe for another reboot.

I also personally think it was one of the best depictions of time travel on film.

That was always the issue with the X-Men universe. A couple of great movies, followed by an absolute whiff.

I agree though. DOFP was very well reviewed. Logan was nominated at the academy awards for best adapted screenplay ffs. It's also one of the highest grossing r rated films of all time.

There most likely is a reboot on the way though, regardless of takeover. Logan was clearly a goodbye film to Hugh Jackman. The new reboot lasts as long as MacAvoy and Fassbender stay interested.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by blankall

That was always the issue with the X-Men universe. A couple of great movies, followed by an absolute whiff.

I agree though. DOFP was very well reviewed. Logan was nominated at the academy awards for best adapted screenplay ffs.

There most likely is a reboot on the way though, regardless of takeover. Logan was clearly a goodbye film to Hugh Jackman. The new reboot lasts as long as MacAvoy and Fassbender stay interested.

I thought DOFP was pretty good, obviously the more they concentrate on Wolverine the better and they really should be looking at rebooting his character.

But theres some serious lemons in the X-Men Universe. Apocalypse was brutal.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Locke

I thought DOFP was pretty good, obviously the more they concentrate on Wolverine the better and they really should be looking at rebooting his character.

But theres some serious lemons in the X-Men Universe. Apocalypse was brutal.

X3 and the first solo wolverine movie were both absolute trash too. Definitely some lemons in there.

I think that the Jackman Wolverine has run it's course though.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by blankall

X3 and the first solo wolverine movie were both absolute trash too. Definitely some lemons in there.

I think that the Jackman Wolverine has run it's course though.

Absolutely, everything you read about shows Jackman is done as Wolverine and I dont blame him. Maintaining that physique for that character was a nightmare.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Locke

Absolutely, everything you read about shows Jackman is done as Wolverine and I dont blame him. Maintaining that physique for that character was a nightmare.

I think that Reynolds may be able to convince him to comeback one last time for some Wolverine/Deadpool fun where the whole joke is based around how he's done and out of shape and said he would never come back but did anyway. And that would be the only way it would work IMO. Otherwise I agree he's done and should be.

It's too bad Hardy is Venom, he would have made an awesome Wolverine.

[blankall]

I think we'll see some major reboots across the board if Disney does acquire Fox.

RDJ is probably done as Tony Stark after the next Avengers movie. If the rumours of him making $200 million off IW are true, I can see why Disney may want to renegotiate that too.

Evans, also is almost certainly not coming back. On top of that a lot of the lesser characters with higher name actors attached are likely not to come back either.

I could also see Hardy still doing Wolverine. Assuming Venom doesn't hit it out of the park, he could easily cross over to that.

[CaptainCrunch]

I think that this will be the opportunity for Marvel to start re-inventing characters.


Somehow that bratty inventive kid from I think the third Iron Man will invent his own suit after Stark bravely sacrifices himself to end the infinity wars.


I'm pretty sure that they'll replace Captain America with Bucky when everyone pops back from the Dust pan.


I would expect that the idea will be to thin out the number of heros' so they can focus on the marvel hero's that make sense.


Maybe they can kill Banner and bring in She-Hulk

[KTrain]

After Logan, I'd love to see an X-23 movie set in the same timeline, with the same tone. I'm sure there's some Alpha Flight people still kicking around in Canada to make it interesting. Maybe Sabretooth.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by blankall

I think we'll see some major reboots across the board if Disney does acquire Fox.

RDJ is probably done as Tony Stark after the next Avengers movie. If the rumours of him making $200 million off IW are true, I can see why Disney may want to renegotiate that too.

Evans, also is almost certainly not coming back. On top of that a lot of the lesser characters with higher name actors attached are likely not to come back either.

I could also see Hardy still doing Wolverine. Assuming Venom doesn't hit it out of the park, he could easily cross over to that.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that this will be the opportunity for Marvel to start re-inventing characters.


Somehow that bratty inventive kid from I think the third Iron Man will invent his own suit after Stark bravely sacrifices himself to end the infinity wars.


I'm pretty sure that they'll replace Captain America with Bucky when everyone pops back from the Dust pan.


I would expect that the idea will be to thin out the number of heros' so they can focus on the marvel hero's that make sense.


Maybe they can kill Banner and bring in She-Hulk

This is one of the main things that Marvel has set up very well (basically by following the comic story arcs really) is the ability to replace their actors/characters, without just rebooting them or using different actors for the same roles.

Kill Stark? Peter Parker is his obvious replacement as head loud-mouth/genius. Possibly with a Miles Morales tangent to replace himself.

Kill Cap? I think you see Wilson take over as Cap and Barnes taking over as White Wolf, as has been suggested.

Thor can be reincarnated as pretty much anything.

Banner...not a fan of She-Hulk personally, just a bit too the same as the Hulk. But if they make Banner a full-time merge of Hulk and himself, they could just use an animated character for him which can basically be anyone in PJs and have Ruffalo in for some voice work.

There are many different directions they could go.

[CaptainCrunch]

I was kinda joking about She Hulk, who's only live action portrayal was by Chyna in a porn movie

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Coach

I think that Reynolds may be able to convince him to comeback one last time for some Wolverine/Deadpool fun where the whole joke is based around how he's done and out of shape and said he would never come back but did anyway. And that would be the only way it would work IMO. Otherwise I agree he's done and should be.

It's too bad Hardy is Venom, he would have made an awesome Wolverine.

A couple things there, I read that Jackman has told Reynolds to knock it off more than once, a couple times in jest I'm sure and I dont know if thats part of a running gag between them, but I'm pretty sure hes done as Wolverine.

As for Hardy, its not outside the realm of possibility, but I think they're going to find it tougher to hook big name actors and keep them doing it for a long time.

Most prime actors dont always want to be locked up in a franchise and when they do they become too recognized as that character and it becomes expensive to keep them.

That being said, its not like Hardy is hard up for work, hes got Venom coming out now and theres rumours that hes in the mix for James Bond as well.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Coach

This is one of the main things that Marvel has set up very well (basically by following the comic story arcs really) is the ability to replace their actors/characters, without just rebooting them or using different actors for the same roles.

Kill Stark? Peter Parker is his obvious replacement as head loud-mouth/genius. Possibly with a Miles Morales tangent to replace himself.

Kill Cap? I think you see Wilson take over as Cap and Barnes taking over as White Wolf, as has been suggested.

Thor can be reincarnated as pretty much anything.

Banner...not a fan of She-Hulk personally, just a bit too the same as the Hulk. But if they make Banner a full-time merge of Hulk and himself, they could just use an animated character for him which can basically be anyone in PJs and have Ruffalo in for some voice work.

There are many different directions they could go.

Iron Man without RDJ is going to be a tough sell. RDJ is a large part of the success of all of the Avenger characters, hence his multiple appearances in other movies and huge paychecks.

I think Disney will use Captain Marvel as a litmus test on how to proceed post IW. Disney is keeping their cards really close with phase 4. So far they've only confirmed Spiderman (not actually a Disney film) and GOTG3. We keep hearing inconsistent information about Black Widow and Dr. Strange 2.

I'm betting, based on how Captain Marvel does Disney will decide on a more clear direction and how much of a reboot they want. If Captain Marvel disappoints, that will be two disappointing solo releases in a row (Ant Man 2 is not doing particularly well). Ant Man 2 probably cost about $160 mil plus marketing. It might only make around $400 million, which would put it at pretty close to just breaking even.

Edit: Didn't realize that Ant Man hadn't debuted in China yet. So it might make around $450-500 in the end. Disappointing, but still profitable.

[KTrain]

I like Hardy but he's already done Bane and is going to be Venom. If the movie is good and they do more, he likely won't be an option.

Garrett Hedlund has been thrown around a bit as a possible replacement. I think he has the acting chops, is decently well known but not super famous that they couldn't keep him around for a franchise. He's also got some history with Disney (Tron: Legacy).

The idea of a complete unknown getting the role scares me. We could end up with a Solo...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by blankall

X3 and the first solo wolverine movie were both absolute trash too. Definitely some lemons in there.

I think that the Jackman Wolverine has run it's course though.

I think the X-Men movies have kind of run their course as well. There has already been six or seven and the mutants vs evil mutants vs humans stories have become played out and most of the X-Men heroes aren't nearly as compelling as the Avengers. I don't see why we need another X-Men movie for at least 3-4 years at the earliest.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think the X-Men movies have kind of run their course as well. There has already been six or seven and the mutants vs evil mutants vs humans stories have become played out and most of the X-Men heroes aren't nearly as compelling as the Avengers. I don't see why we need another X-Men movie for at least 3-4 years at the earliest.

i don't know about that. Logan and Deadpool both showed that their is definitely a continued audience for fresh X-men films. Both films, which had relatively low budgets, were very profitable.

This is obviously a matter of choice, but I find the X-men characters a lot more compelling and 3 dimensional than the Avengers characters. It's difficult to portray the characters without taking a deep dive, that can be pretty dark. Where the X-men movies, that do go wrong, go wrong is where they portray the characters on a superficial level. For example, the Blob in Wolverine, the Juggernaut in X3, and Apocalypse.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by KTrain

After Logan, I'd love to see an X-23 movie set in the same timeline, with the same tone. I'm sure there's some Alpha Flight people still kicking around in Canada to make it interesting. Maybe Sabretooth.

I would be thrilled to death with an X-23 movie if it comes close to the tone of Logan, regardless of timeline or age of the character or whatever. Laura was one of the best parts about Logan.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Comcast is no longer pursuing their Fox bid.