2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[JBR]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Tkachuk + for Eichel
Monahan + for Laine


That'd be one hell of an off season as long as the pluses aren't too crazy in those proposed deals.

Would be nice but you may have to use the same +‘s in each deal.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Tkachuk + for Eichel
Monahan + for Laine


That'd be one hell of an off season as long as the pluses aren't too crazy in those proposed deals.

Laine had a bad season and without a contract the value suffers. Monahan+Valimaki is a very strong offer imo. (Some people here will crucify me for this.)

Tkachuk+Kylington+1st 2021 for eichel
There won't be a piece as enticing as Tkachuk long term on the table for eichel, IMO, with his injury and surgery.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Laine had a bad season and without a contract the value suffers. Monahan+Valimaki is a very strong offer imo. (Some people here will crucify me for this.)

Tkachuk+Kylington+1st 2021 for eichel
There won't be a piece as enticing as Tkachuk long term on the table for eichel, IMO, with his injury and surgery.

I generally don’t like the idea of acquiring Laine as it’s been pretty heavily rumoured that he wants to get to a beach town in free agency…but it would be cool.

I don’t think Tkachuk + Kylington + 1st gets you Eichel. Tkachuk + 1st + 1st? Tkachuk + 1st + Zary? Those two I think work.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I generally don’t like the idea of acquiring Laine as it’s been pretty heavily rumoured that he wants to get to a beach town in free agency…but it would be cool.

I don’t think Tkachuk + Kylington + 1st gets you Eichel. Tkachuk + 1st + 1st? Tkachuk + 1st + Zary? Those two I think work.

And if Valimaki goes in the other deal and if Gio is gone you may want Kylington around.

[Geeoff]

I wonder if the Blue Jackets will be looking to rebuild. They've lost a lot of talent, Laine didn't work out, Seth Jones likely gone at the draft. They may not be looking for NHL players

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I wonder if the Blue Jackets will be looking to rebuild. They've lost a lot of talent, Laine didn't work out, Seth Jones likely gone at the draft. They may not be looking for NHL players

Despite the fact that they are constantly losing assets, things aren't quite as bad as they seem for Columbus.

The reason for this is the fact they only have two players who are over 28 and have a contract that goes past next year: Atkinson and Nyquist. No one gets paid more than 6 million.

My point is, it's easy to rebound quickly when you're in a good cap situation. This year is a strong free agency and not a lot of teams have cap.
Unlike Buffalo, Columbus hasn't resorted to grossly overpaying people just to stay there.

Add the fact that they have a lot of picks, and things aren't so gloom and doom.

They are a pretty well-managed team. If they can get players to actually stay there, they'll be fine. But that's a big if.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I wonder if the Blue Jackets will be looking to rebuild. They've lost a lot of talent, Laine didn't work out, Seth Jones likely gone at the draft. They may not be looking for NHL players

CBJ could be poised for a 2 yr re-tool, which would make a lot of sense given their stacked division (with WAS and PIT poised to fall off sooner or later).

Laine + goalie + TBL 1st for Eichel

Jones for Frost/Patrick +2nd

Domi for _____ (Kerfoot+Liljegren?)

Giving Eichel the full year to recover, they'd be right in the Wright sweepstakes. They'd have room to take back some bad money, too, or be poised to go big game hunting in UFA 2022.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

CBJ could be poised for a 2 yr re-tool, which would make a lot of sense given their stacked division (with WAS and PIT poised to fall off sooner or later).

Laine + goalie + TBL 1st for Eichel

Jones for Frost/Patrick +2nd

Domi for _____ (Kerfoot+Liljegren?)

Giving Eichel the full year to recover, they'd be right in the Wright sweepstakes. They'd have room to take back some bad money, too, or be poised to go big game hunting in UFA 2022.

There is an outside chance that Patrick is exposed in the expansion draft, not sure he is the centerpiece of any major deal.

[Heavy Jack]

I can’t help but think this offseason could be a catalyst to finally getting the most out of this young core. We need to shake things up for sure, here’s hoping Treliving can pass that test because I think the players that end up making the roster and playing for Sutter could turn into a formidable foe for a lot of teams.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I can’t help but think this offseason could be a catalyst to finally getting the most out of this young core. We need to shake things up for sure, here’s hoping Treliving can pass that test because I think the players that end up making the roster and playing for Sutter could turn into a formidable foe for a lot of teams.

Yeah, I’m hoping Treliving has a Dougie Hamilton-style off-season.

Last year, outside of the Ward hire (wtf Tree…), he did a good job of adding to the team without spending assets. Now it’s up to him to have one of those transformational summers (like trading a 1st and two 2nds for Hamilton).

Can he acquire Eichel? Can he acquire a young top pairing defenceman? There are opportunities out there, and the time is right to move on from some of the longer served Flames (Gio, Backs?).

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, I’m hoping Treliving has a Dougie Hamilton-style off-season.

Last year, outside of the Ward hire (wtf Tree…), he did a good job of adding to the team without spending assets. Now it’s up to him to have one of those transformational summers (like trading a 1st and two 2nds for Hamilton).

Can he acquire Eichel? Can he acquire a young top pairing defenceman? There are opportunities out there, and the time is right to move on from some of the longer served Flames (Gio, Backs?).

Hmmm what about a true Buffalo block buster with Tkachuk and Monahan and some chips one way for Eichel and I know, I know, I know, just spit balling ... Ristolainen? He had the league worst minus just 3 seasons ago but everyone on Buffalo including Rienhardt, is a big career minus, the whole freakin team. Can Sutter teach a big, strong skating talented R shot offensive defenseman how to play defense properly???

Maybe he can't and I know the guy has some worts.

I found it odd that since Trelivings Presser when the season ended that everyone's latched on to the core change comments. I heard, but just once him also let slip the they need more offense on their blueline. Sounds obvious but the way he phrased it made me think he does have a core blueline change coming as well, maybe two. I haven't heard the media guys talk about that.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

There is an outside chance that Patrick is exposed in the expansion draft, not sure he is the centerpiece of any major deal.

Who's protected over him?

JVR?
Voracek?

Patrick may not have much more trade value than those two, but he would definitely be easier to move. Hard to see them exposing him over those 2 IMO.

[GioforPM]

Just found out Treliving is giving an address at my kid’s virtual grad tonight (his kid is also in the class). I will advise of any bombshells.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Just found out Treliving is giving an address at my kid’s virtual grad tonight (his kid is also in the class). I will advise of any bombshells.

"Dear class of 2021... May your futures be bright and happy with Jack Eichel as the Flames #1C in exchange for Zach Rinaldo and the 3rd round pick we got from the Jabronis up north in Edmonton"

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

"Dear class of 2021... May your futures be bright and happy with Jack Eichel as the Flames #1C in exchange for Zach Rinaldo and the 3rd round pick we got from the Jabronis up north in Edmonton"

My bad - young Ms Treliving’s grandpa Jim is the one speaking.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

My bad - young Ms Treliving’s grandpa Jim is the one speaking.

I can’t imagine what a Brad Tre grad speech would be

Most of his interviews about the Flames sound like he is reading from a textbook on how to do the job of a GM.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I can’t imagine what a Brad Tre grad speech would be

Most of his interviews about the Flames sound like he is reading from a textbook on how to do the job of a GM.

Turns out Jim’s was pretty text-like

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I can’t imagine what a Brad Tre grad speech would be

Most of his interviews about the Flames sound like he is reading from a textbook on how to do the job of a GM.

He could explain “the process” to a future generation of Flames fans.

[powderjunkie]

Latest 31 thoughts pod Friedman mentioned NAS fans proposing Ellis+Arvidsson for Marner. EF and Marek thought it wasn't enough, but I think that would be an excellent return.

VA is 28, 3x4.25
RE is 30, 6x6.25

MM is 24, 4x10.9

Last couple years of Ellis may not be great, but the Leafs really have a 2-3 year window before Matthews is UFA and Tavares/Muzzin/Brodie start to slow down.

[GioforPM]

Watching the Avs - they have to sign or replace Landeskog, Saad, Bellemare, Soderberg, Nemeth, Grubauer and Dubnyk. They have to sign Makar to his first RFA contract and it’s gotta be huge. They have Erik Johnston on LTIR and if he comes back it’s trouble. I wonder if they need to shed someone - Burakovsky would be a nice pickup.