10-13-2020, 06:44 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Leafs sign Aaron Dell (1x800k)
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10-13-2020, 06:44 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Good price for a decent backup.
3rd goalie similiar to Calgary adding Domingue.
Last edited by btimbit; 10-13-2020 at 06:52 PM.
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10-13-2020, 07:17 PM
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#3
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All I can get
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Beginning to suspect teams are creating taxi squads that are neither roster nor affiliate. At least with goaltenders.
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10-13-2020, 07:19 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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I wonder what happens if there's no AHL to send guys down to.
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10-13-2020, 07:37 PM
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#5
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
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Goalie depth will be very important this upcoming season. We will be seeing another condensed schedule in the NHL and one in the AHL.
Rittich's contract is a tad rich for a back up, but honestly he is more than capable of giving us 25-30 solid starts. He still has a role on this team despite the Markstrom signing- especially next season.
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10-13-2020, 08:10 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Goalie depth will be very important this upcoming season. We will be seeing another condensed schedule in the NHL and one in the AHL.
Rittich's contract is a tad rich for a back up, but honestly he is more than capable of giving us 25-30 solid starts. He still has a role on this team despite the Markstrom signing- especially next season.
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Exactly. Replacing Rittich with Dell could be the difference of playoffs or no playoffs.
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10-13-2020, 08:22 PM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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I like the Airdrie kid but I don't think this is the year to cheap out on a backup...probably playing 60 or less games in a condensed schedule
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10-13-2020, 08:22 PM
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#8
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Fire
Exactly. Replacing Rittich with Dell could be the difference of playoffs or no playoffs.
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Perhaps, although Dell was pretty substantially better than Rittich last year. Dell ranked 26th out of 85 NHL goalies in terms of goals saved above expected (GSAx). Rittich was 74th.
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10-13-2020, 08:28 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
There goes my Trade Rittich, Sign Dell idea
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You’ll just have to
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10-13-2020, 08:37 PM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Perhaps, although Dell was pretty substantially better than Rittich last year. Dell ranked 26th out of 85 NHL goalies in terms of goals saved above expected (GSAx). Rittich was 74th.
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And yet Rittich was better in stats that people actually care about...things like Wins, GAA, Shutouts, Games Played (and they were equal in Save%).
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10-13-2020, 08:42 PM
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#11
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
And yet Rittich was better in stats that people actually care about...things like Wins, GAA, Shutouts, Games Played (and they were equal in Save%).
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Wins, GAA, and shutouts are heavily team-influenced.
Dell had a better SV% playing behind a substantially worse defense.
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10-13-2020, 08:51 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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They both had a .907 Save% last year.
But you're right, why count silly things that get your team actual wins, when a single fancy stat allows you to declare one goalie substantially better.
Rittich had a bad end to the season, but let's not run him out of town just yet.
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10-13-2020, 08:54 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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SJ was bad largely because of their goal tending
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10-13-2020, 08:55 PM
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#14
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Goals saved above expected isn't really that fancy of a stat. It just takes into account shot quality and how porous individual defenses are by weighting the shots a goalie faces by where on the ice they're taken.
It's basically applying a directional element to a scalar stat. Vectors ftw.
SJ was bad because of Jones and because of how bad their big 3 on defense were (especially Vlasic and Burns). Also because Hertl and Couture got hurt.
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10-13-2020, 09:20 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
It's basically applying a directional element to a scalar stat. Vectors ftw.
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Alright, settle down there, Harvard Ponytail guy.
All I’m saying is that you can’t make declarative statements like that based on one advanced metric, when every other traditional metric says that Rittich had the more beneficial season, to himself and his team. All at 3 years of age younger.
If Dell was such a great asset to the Sharks, he would’ve been brought back by them or signed on day 1 of free agency, not be signed for minimum dollars to play third string.
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10-13-2020, 09:23 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Alright, settle down there, Harvard Ponytail guy.
All I’m saying is that you can’t make declarative statements like that based on one advanced metric, when every other traditional metric says that Rittich had the more beneficial season, to himself and his team. All at 3 years of age younger.
If Dell was such a great asset to the Sharks, he would’ve been brought back by them or signed on day 1 of free agency, not be signed for minimum dollars to play third string
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best argument yet
good kid though, hope he does well
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10-13-2020, 09:25 PM
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#17
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Vectors are the very first thing they teach you in tenth grade physics, fwiw.
Anywho I'm not saying Dell is any sort of saviour. I'm just saying that I think it could have been shrewd to replace Rittich with him at that cap hit and free up some salary room while getting a negligible downgrade or perhaps even an upgrade.
The Sharks didn't really have any room for him anyway with Jones and Dubnyk in the fold. They picked Donato (which required Dubnyk to be part of the trade) over Dell, ultimately.
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10-13-2020, 09:46 PM
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Franchise Player
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When will they put chips in pucks, or have the camera tech needed to track actual shot quality and not just what I presume is some person tracking where a shot comes from?Speed of the shot, length of time it’s on the stick before shooting, direction changes, angle of elevation are a few elements that would be interesting to track.
Then you could actually figure out who is out there making the hard saves or missing the easy ones. And who can snipe for that matter.
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10-14-2020, 02:01 AM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
When will they put chips in pucks, or have the camera tech needed to track actual shot quality and not just what I presume is some person tracking where a shot comes from?Speed of the shot, length of time it’s on the stick before shooting, direction changes, angle of elevation are a few elements that would be interesting to track.
Then you could actually figure out who is out there making the hard saves or missing the easy ones. And who can snipe for that matter.
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They had them during the Final. I believe they were doing the final testing of the tech during the playoffs and then started sharing stats from the new pucks in the Final.
Every so often they would show a possession clock with actual time of possession, rather than someone counting shot attempts to try to estimate who had possession of the puck the longest.
Who knows what data the league will actually share publicly, but they should have the ability to track every movement the puck makes during the course of the game.
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10-14-2020, 08:37 AM
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#20
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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I can't make sense of why the Oilers chose Smith @ 2M over Dell @ ~1M. It seemed like a no-brainer...
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