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Old 05-24-2019, 11:37 AM   #41
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Cochrane apparently does.
Oh no...the City issued me a strongly worded note that Styofoam was not to be in the Blue Bin. I got a note!
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Edmonton does.
Hockey team dumpster fires don't really count.
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Oh no...the City issued me a strongly worded note that Styofoam was not to be in the Blue Bin. I got a note!
Sooooo....

Tax services for Styrofoam collection?
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:45 AM   #44
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Sooooo....

Tax services for Styrofoam collection?
I'm intrigued by your proposition and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Hockey team dumpster fires don't really count.
Wow. 9 whole posts before it went to E=NG.

This is literally the only thing they lead in. How we shut down coal plants in the province 3 years before they planned on, yet don't encourage this is beyond me.

Oh well. We'll run out of water long before garbage is a problem.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:51 AM   #46
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Wow. 9 whole posts before it went to E=NG.

This is literally the only thing they lead in. How we shut down coal plants in the province 3 years before they planned on, yet don't encourage this is beyond me.

Oh well. We'll run out of water long before garbage is a problem.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-limit-by-2036
Low hanging fruit.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:54 AM   #47
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Low hanging fruit.
Agreed.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:56 AM   #48
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I'm intrigued by your proposition and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
I have a fire pit.

You have Styrofoam, and my current business,

My newsletter is called "Burn between the lines; the environmentalist approach to finances". You've been subscribed and there's some cookie agreement we can get to later.
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Oh well. We'll run out of water long before garbage is a problem.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-limit-by-2036
I'm sure there is plenty of reason to be concerned, but places like Los Angeles, Phoenix, or New York City don't seem to have had too much trouble providing clean water to many, many more people than Calgary...are we really going to be the first metropolis that can't?
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:04 AM   #50
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Wow. 9 whole posts before it went to E=NG.

This is literally the only thing they lead in. How we shut down coal plants in the province 3 years before they planned on, yet don't encourage this is beyond me.

Oh well. We'll run out of water long before garbage is a problem.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-limit-by-2036
The comment section really doesn't make me feel optimistic to be a human.
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I'm sure there is plenty of reason to be concerned, but places like Los Angeles, Phoenix, or New York City don't seem to have had too much trouble providing clean water to many, many more people than Calgary...are we really going to be the first metropolis that can't?
Lolwut? Los Angeles and Phoenix have HUGE problems with their water supplies. The effects of diverting water to these cities has been characterized as one of the world's worst man-made ecological disasters. They already have significant drought problems, they're ****ed.

New York City mostly gets its water from the Delaware River watershed >100 miles northwest, and has been reliably been replenished with rainwater and snow melt. Ours is the Bow and Elbow valleys, and it's not being reliably replenished.
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Lolwut? Los Angeles and Phoenix have HUGE problems with their water supplies. The effects of diverting water to these cities has been characterized as one of the world's worst man-made ecological disasters. They already have significant drought problems, they're ****ed.

New York City mostly gets its water from the Delaware River watershed >100 miles northwest, and has been reliably been replenished with rainwater and snow melt. Ours is the Bow and Elbow valleys, and it's not being reliably replenished.
I suppose I should have phrased it as 'have continued to find ways to provide' water for their huge populations. It would be interesting to know more about the financial costs involved (let alone ecological costs), and whether they are really being paid by residents - evidently not as it has not been a factor in stemming population growth.

Which isn't to say it isn't something we should be working on, but my point is that it will be hard to view it locally as a 'crisis'. It will be an uphill battle in terms of individual behaviour when you can look at any number of bigger cities in the world with more difficult situations who haven't really had to turn off the taps...
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Old 05-26-2019, 01:10 PM   #53
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Anywhere near the ocean has no water scarcity problems. Desalination at $1-$2 per cube is very affordable.

Farm irrigation is definitely an issue with the water table issues in California but water for humans is not.

For Calgary you would just increase resivoir sizes and decrease flows so that net out is equal to net in. You flow less water to the ocean.

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I honestly think it is time to start loading our garbage/recyclables onto large rockets and firing the stuff into deep space where it won't be a problem. Let the aliens deal with it.
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I honestly think it is time to start loading our garbage/recyclables onto large rockets and firing the stuff into deep space where it won't be a problem. Let the aliens deal with it.

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There is an article in today's Herald about a local company that could shred all these clam shells that pose recycling problems and turn them into 3-D products. Apparently the city has talked with them but is not sure it can handle the scope of the problem.

I would say at least give them a try.


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The company, Eco- Growth, said it could ensure the clamshell containers — now stored in at least 100 semi-trailer units at a southeast landfill site — are turned into 3-D created products ranging from travel trailers and park benches to playground structures.

“We already have the technology, we just have to do it ... the city should be beating a path,” Caron said. “It’s absolutely bizarre.”

The company, he said, has long rendered plastic bottles into doormats and would have no problem shredding clamshell packaging.

Eco-Growth’s Glen Smith said the company can process the plastics where it’s now stored.

“We could bring the technology to the city’s site and consume it there,” he said.

“The clamshells are one of the best ones to use, they’re beautiful.”

The city and its recyclables sorting partner, Cascades Recovery, could reduce processing costs by not having to transport the material out of the city for recycling, Smith said.
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Can you link the article, please?
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Can you link the article, please?

typed the quote into google and found it.


https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...og-of-plastics


actually has more good info in it and infographics
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I absolutely do not. However given the fact that anything evem remotely contaminated is not acceptable for recycling, if people actually cared about recycling, they probably should run it through the dishwasher first, or at least spend copious amounts of water cleaning everything.

Frankly I don't care. Burn it. Bury it. Move it to Saskatoon and make a ski hill out of it. Makes more sense and it's cheaper.

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The #1 thing I have learned in dealing with the City as a supplier:

Never, ever, make the Corporation look bad.
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