The Annual NHL team rankings thread (The Athletic and others)

[Boblobla]

4. Florida Panthers
3. Colorado Avalanche

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Seriously that looks more like division standings picked out of a hat than calculated results. I get that the Leafs may have goaltending issues but 91 points and missing the playoffs is laughable.

What ore needs to be said when the guy's twitter is @ineffectivemath?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

4. Florida Panthers
3. Colorado Avalanche

So Calgary and Toronto are in the top 2? Wtf...

[1_Flames_Fan]

I think the Flames are ranked a bit high maybe but I'm not worried about any bad juju. Just need the roster to gel quickly and play to expectations and with Sutter I have alot of confidence that will happen.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

So Calgary and Toronto are in the top 2? Wtf...

Click bait. Obviously.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

I think the Flames are ranked a bit high maybe but I'm not worried about any bad juju. Just need the roster to gel quickly and play to expectations and with Sutter I have alot of confidence that will happen.

Sure it was preseason, and against the Kraken... but we still looked a lot better last night without a top line and half of our top D than we have with our entire rosters of some years past.

[Johnny Makarov]

had to drive up to Edmonton on Friday night and switched to CHED half way up. They went on about the Flames D depth for like 5 mins. How they would slot guys and pairings and then realized we still had Stone, Meloche, Mackey and Valimaki left over.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

So Calgary and Toronto are in the top 2? Wtf...

Like this matters at all.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn't be worried about being a highly rated team going into the season.

This is a different team now, and with a coach who knows how to manage expectations and outside noise as we saw last year.

The guys we have now have been on teams that have had huge expectations going into the season. Coleman(Tampa), Huberdeau(Florida), Kadri(Colorado), Weegar(Florida). 2 of those guys have won the last 3 cups.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by chummer

Top 4.


32. Arizona Coyotes
31. Montreal Canadiens
30. Chicago Blackhawks
29. Buffalo Sabres
28. Philadelphia Flyers
27. Columbus Blue Jackets
26. San Jose Sharks
25. Anaheim Ducks
24. Detroit Red Wings
23. Seattle Kraken
22. Ottawa Senators
21. Winnipeg Jets
20. New York Islanders
19. New Jersey Devils
18. Vancouver Canucks
17. St. Louis Blues
16. Los Angeles Kings
15. Vegas Golden Knights
14. New York Rangers
13. Dallas Stars
12. Washington Capitals
11. Nashville Predators
10. Edmonton Oilers
9. Pittsburgh Penguins
8. Carolina Hurricanes
7. Tampa Bay Lightning
6. Boston Bruins
5. Minnesota Wild

Note that Johnny CHOSE to go from 4. Flames to 27. Columbus.

For less money.

And shorter term.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Note that Johnny CHOSE to go from 4. Flames to 27. Columbus.

For less money.

And shorter term.

It's actually 1-2. Flames

[1_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Note that Johnny CHOSE to go from 4. Flames to 27. Columbus.

For less money.

And shorter term.

That's 1 or 2 Flames

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Seriously that looks more like division standings picked out of a hat than calculated results. I get that the Leafs may have goaltending issues but 91 points and missing the playoffs is laughable.

Also, the entire league is slotted between 85 and 97 points (and seemingly randomly).

When you build models, one of the simplest and most important tests of the model is to see if the results make sense - are they reasonable?

And when they are this far removed from 'reasonable', they are either breaking new ground (unlikely) or the model is garbage (more likely). In this case, the model is CLEARLY garbage. The fact that hey tweeted out the results is astounding, as it just makes them look like idiots.

[Roof-Daddy]

Surprised they are ranked this high, but they had 111 points last year and were advanced stat darlings all season, then improved significantly at C and D in the off season.

I'm always wary of the Flames when they are predicted to be good though. Hopefully they prove the predictions right.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

how is TO top 2 when they have that big of a question mark in goal

[dino7c]

The butthurt up north will be something to behold

[Newton]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

LA ahead of Vancouver; Edmonton well back of Calgary. These fans must be losing their minds about this.

but Beefore we got swept we beat their old gang!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Problem is that Toffoli in the first line is a massive downgrade. I'm hopeful he can have a season close to his career highs but that's a bit of hope and prayer right now because he skates like he has cinder blocks tied to his skates. I think the 2nd line will produce better but I think too many people are discounting just how special the 1st line was last season. It will likely be decades until we see anything like that again in Calgary.

Think we’re a better balanced team now though. Which will make us much harder to play against.

Patty Kane at the trade deadline?

[tony-soprano]

Surprised that the Flames are ranked this high, given the huge changes and time it might take to build chemistry.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by activeStick

So I'd go 4th Panthers, 3rd Leafs, 2nd Flames, 1st Avs

Without the goaltending question, the Leafs are an easy #2. Also, they’re the Leafs, so they could be #1, or they could be #18.

For a team I grew up loathing, I actually have some sympathy for them.


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